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good afternoon and welcome everybody to

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NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida

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we wanted to take this opportunity now

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that the calendar has turned to 2013 to

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give you an update on the status of

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NASA's Commercial Crew program reviewing

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the accomplishments of 2012 and also

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providing a look ahead to what's to come

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in 2013 we've assembled a panel of

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experts here to provide this update

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today and after they give you an update

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will be happy to take questions from

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Kennedy Space Center as well as the

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Johnson Space Center phone bridge and on

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twitter with the hashtag ask nasa so

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we'll go ahead and get things underway

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I'd like to introduce our panel to my

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left ed mango NASA's Commercial Crew

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program manager and to Ed's left Phil

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McAllister NASA Commercial Crew or NASA

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commercial spaceflight development

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director next is Rob Myerson Blue Origin

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president and program manager John

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Mulholland The Boeing Company commercial

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programs space exploration vice

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president and program manager Mark sir

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angelo sierra nevada corporation vice

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and garrett reisman SpaceX Commercial

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Crew project manager thank you all for

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joining us and we'll get underway with

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mr. mango I good afternoon everyone and

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thank you for taking the opportunity to

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let us tell you about our Commercial

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Crew activities over the last year and

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what we'll be doing in the future see we

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have a few things you do want to talk

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about we want to update you and where

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the program is at today and our

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commercial crew program Phil is going to

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be doing a lot of that also we asked all

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the partners to come and join us today

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to talk about what they have

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accomplished in 2012 it has been an

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unbelievable year for the Commercial

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Crew program and what they expect to

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accomplish in 2013 as we continue to

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progress towards human spaceflight

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transportation from the United States

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and then I'll come back and talk about a

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new initiative that is going to be

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kicking off here in a few weeks called

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the certification products contract we

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awarded that back in December and we'll

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be picking that up here in a few weeks

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I'll talk about that and also talk about

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our planning our final are planning for

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our final development and certification

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effort so first are coming over to fill

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and you can talk about where r at as an

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overall initiative okay thanks said it's

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good to be back in florida and i'm going

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to be talking mostly about sort of the

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strategic aspect of our partnership the

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partners down in my left they're going

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to be talking you to you more tactically

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about the things specifically that

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happened on their technical programs and

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i'm sure that's what you're most

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interested in but partnerships are very

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difficult there are even difficult when

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you have to private sector entities but

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in this case we have a public-private

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partnership which mutant makes the

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challenges even greater in some cases so

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nASA has put in place several strategies

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to ensure or to at least help ensure

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that the partnership would be successful

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and I want to touch on several of those

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before i do i do want to stress the goal

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of the program everything kind of flows

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from that so almost all of my

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presentations start with the goal which

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for NASA is to facilitate the

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development of a crew transportation

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system capable of flying too low Earth

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station for a variety customer so we

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aren't doing the development

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that's where the partnership comes into

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place because nASA has some unique

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capabilities to help and the partners

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bring their unique capabilities and

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through the combination we hope to do

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this very quickly very cost-effectively

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and very safely so the the aspects of

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the partnership that I'm going to touch

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on very quickly so we can get to the

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good stuff are the settlement items you

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see you see listed financial investments

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the quarterly reviews and milestones the

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requirements application so let's go to

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the next slide obviously the financial

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investment is the thing that gets the

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different through four different

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activities we have awarded approximately

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1.5 billion dollars to help get us to a

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icap awards which are going on for about

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another year and some change and most

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award for the certification products

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contract that's a key one that Ed is

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going to talk about there but through

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these series of investments quite a lot

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pretty sizable investment that we hope

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will will enable our partners to bring

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these to bear more quickly so the next

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obviously the milestones next slide the

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milestones are the formal mechanisms in

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the Space Act agreements themselves that

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allow NASA to assess our partner

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progress you do not need to read the

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graphic that's really just a

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representation of the schedule for the

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next year and a half and you can see

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marks but there's a lot of them those

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tick marks represent either a milestone

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milestones are key because that's where

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the money gets paid out right with these

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these agreements they're not grants they

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are not loans they are paid for

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performance milestones so the partners

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demonstrative progress towards

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developing their crew transportation

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system and that's what's important for

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milestones allow us to ensure that the

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partners are making good progress are

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making good use of our money and that is

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the formal mechanism by which they are

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reviews and that's more of a management

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activity that allows us and the

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to assess again the partnership as a

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whole it's great to get these individual

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milestones and see how they're going but

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the partnership and that's what the

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any changes any problems that have

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cropped up and allow us to really talk

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our partners so that turns out to be a

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partnerships are really just about

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multitude of discipline so that's what

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available and accessible to the partners

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provide direction but they are very

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available to provide lessons learned in

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history and experience with our partners

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on a day-to-day basis and the partners

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help us gain the insight that NASA field

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how the partners are really doing so

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us to really understand the nature of

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street that the partners help the help

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help our companies but also help NASA

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day days basis but some of these issues

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partners come with their people NASA

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specific subject matter and you can

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agreements this is a real win-win in my

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basis so the partners actually reimburse

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our technology or our people who have a

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unique expertise and may not be fully

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infrastructure that's something that's

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this has been a real win-win you can see

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snapshot of the number of agreements we

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various centers there's 28 now there's

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spaceflight and we can make that

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available upon request from our partners

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to date our for partners either through

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CC dev or CC icap have made over a

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thousand requests for data and we are

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accommodating those as best we can it

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really helps the partners obviously

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because then they don't have to reinvent

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the wheel they don't have to redo a test

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it helps NASA because it saves us money

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if our partners who don't have to redo

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the test it saves them money it saves us

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money it also helps the nation the

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nation gets the benefit of NASA's

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investment multiple times not just from

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what its original purpose was but we get

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to sort of repurpose that information

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for our partners again so they don't

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have to reinvent the wheel and we can do

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this in a more cost-effective fashion I

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see this again as a real super win-win

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for both NASA and our partners and then

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lastly I won't go into too much detail

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because this is where Ed's going to talk

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mostly is a requirements application we

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just a awarded the certification

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products contracting for the first time

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it gives us a formal mechanism by which

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we can apply these requirements

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disposition them and give feedback to

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our partners about how well their design

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meets our requirements so that we can be

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ensured that we get what we want at the

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end of this partnership phase and then

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just to wrap up I hope I made it within

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10 minutes I didn't get the hook yet so

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i guess i'm good just to wrap up i do

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need to stress that the Commercial Crew

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program and our efforts to low-earth

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orbit including the International Space

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Station are just one part of NASA's

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overall strategy we obviously have a

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deep space exploration strategy that the

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programs that are supporting those are

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the Space Launch System and the Orion

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multi-purpose crew vehicle so we have a

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complimentary dual strategy at NASA

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letting the private sector take a little

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bit more responsibility for low Earth

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orbit and International Space Station

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cargo and crew resupply while still

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NASA sort of retains its more

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traditional role in the deep space

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exploration part and again these are

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very complimentary strategies we

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couldn't do one without the other in my

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opinion and what we're talking about

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today is really just the low Earth orbit

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piece so thank you and I'm gonna turn it

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over to rob okay Thank You pill before I

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start I wanted to thank man go for for

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the invitation to participate here and

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also thank our our integration team or

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pit team led by misty snoop Kowski and

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Bill hill they've been an outstanding

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group of partners and helped lead us

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through our CC dip to after so thank you

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to them I'm going to talk about Blue

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Origin and our accomplishments under CC

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you know a little bit about Blue Origin

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we've been around since the year 2000 we

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were founded by Jeff Bezos the founder

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and CEO of amazon.com we've got a long

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term vision of increasing the number of

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people who can fly into space and and

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with that long term goal of making space

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safe and affordable for more people than

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it has been in the past we you'll hear

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about incremental development today our

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incremental development plan includes a

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focus on reusability we believe

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reusability is that is the best way to

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get to low cost access to space and can

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allow you to gain the practice that you

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need with your vehicles in your fleet to

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roll those lessons learn from practice

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into improving your design and lowering

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the costs even further we've we baseline

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vertical landing because we believe

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that's a very scalable approach for

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we're going to orbital orbital

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operations and vertical landing allows

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us to recover and reuse our vehicles and

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we're starting with suborbital again

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getting to these incremental development

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fashion starting with suborbital to

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prove out the technologies for orbital

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flight and then moving on to orbital

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we've made significant investment in to

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date there are some photos on the right

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hand side of the chart of our facilities

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in Kent Washington and out in Far West

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Texas that we use for engineering

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manufacturing and development tests we

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operate the only a privately owned

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launch site in in the world and we've

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used that for all of our flight

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demonstration to date we have if you see

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in the upper right photo we have our own

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engine test stand in in Kent where we

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did development on on our own rocket

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engine as well as test stands in west

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texas that we've used for developed

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the engine that I'm going to talk about

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a little bit later today also in Kent we

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have vehicle manufacturing and

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capabilities in in the Kent facility I

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want to leave you with on this chart

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where a strong and growing company we're

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hiring we are adding on manufacturing

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capability and and it's it's been a

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significant growth over the last last

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several years let's go to the next chart

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please again this chart title

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incremental development and that's

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that's the core of our development

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philosophy our suborbital program is in

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the in the flight testing stage we first

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flew short hop flight tests of a

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reusable vehicle called Goddard back in

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2006 there's a picture on the lower left

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and there's videos on our website and

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then in two thousand eleven and twelve

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we we started flying our new Shepherd

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vehicle starting with our vehicle we

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call p.m. to which which we flew in

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several flights got that up to Mach 1.2

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and the development of our next vehicle

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in that series of in that program is

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under development right now in our crew

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capsule which is part of the new

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Shepherd program we did our successful

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pad escape tests in October that's part

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of our CC up to agreement and that's

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something I'll show you a video about in

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a later chart these this program is

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providing lessons learned and practice

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so that we can develop the low-cost safe

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and affordable orbital spaceflight

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system and we began development of that

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on our cc'd up to contract with our

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agreement with the system requirements

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review for the orbital space vehicle and

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that that review took place in May of

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this past year of 2012 the vehicle is AB

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iconic it's designed to transport

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between four and seven astronauts up to

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the International Space Station and it

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weighs about 22,000 pounds with the crew

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on board at launch it's designed to fly

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on multiple launch vehicles including

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our own orbital reusable launch vehicle

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as well as the Atlas 5 and United Launch

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Alliance was a partner with us under CC

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to have to we work very closely with

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them our two-stage orbital launch

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vehicle has an expendable upper stage

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and a reusable first stage and pictures

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of that are shown on the right hand side

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of the chart and shows a little bit to

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scale to give you an idea we believe

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that the new chef

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system is a subscale version of what

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we're eventually what we've got under

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development for our orbital launch

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system and that reusable first stage is

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a key part of that technology the as

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we've gone into CC to the decision to

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get into CC double one and two was

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combined with the significant private

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investment that came from mr. Bezos and

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the NASA co-funding we felt looking at

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this this program that was rolling out

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and a few years ago was a way to

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significantly accelerate our efforts so

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on the next chart please talk a little

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bit about our CC dev one and two

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activities our CC double 11 agreement

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was a total of three point seven million

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dollars in that in that period we

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developed and demonstrated a composite

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pressure vessel we did structural

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testing both pressure testing and drop

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testing of that vehicle and then we also

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did some development of our thrust

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vector control system for our escape

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system which was later demonstrated

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under CC to under CC to our space act

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agreement was for a total of 22 million

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dollars there was three projects there

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the space vehicle design maturation was

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was to basically refine and develop the

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design for this by conic vehicle that

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will fly on top of multiple orbital

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launch vehicles we did wind tunnel

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testing we did aerodynamic analysis we

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did propulsion definition a lot of

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requirements will work with that and his

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team a very very good partnership on

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that that refine that that vehicle so we

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can take it further to the next steps

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the the pad escape test was the final

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milestone in our escape system

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development project pusher escape risk

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reduction project and I'll talk about

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that on a separate chart and then our

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reusable booster system engine risk

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reduction reduction test resulted in a

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full power level test one hundred

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percent power level test of a an all-new

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American rocket engine that that uses

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liquid hydrogen as a fuel so let's go to

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the next chart please this will talk

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about this engine this rocket engine

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development we call it the b III it's a

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hundred thousand pound thrust engine it

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fits in between where the RL 10 and the

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j-2x are uses liquid oxygen liquid

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hydrogen as its fuels and like i said

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this is the

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the first all new American engine that

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uses liquid hydrogen as a fuel since

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since the RS 68 development it is deep

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throttling its restartable and it's

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fully reusable and under CC to we did

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testing of the thrust chamber at NASA

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Stennis Space Center you on complex the

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Stennis team has been fantastic partner

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on this and and we always intended to

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continue working with Dennis after the

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CC to agreement ended and we and we plan

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and we are our next entry into Stennis

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is going to be in the middle of februari

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we ran multiple tests over the full

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throttle range going into the teens in

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terms of percent and on up to full

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throttle which is a hundred thousand

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pounds and and the results of this

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partnership was that we accelerated the

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development of that be-3 engine by more

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than a year because the facilities we've

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developed under under private funding at

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our West Texas site are not set up to do

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these types of high pressure testing the

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facility at Stennis is a unique

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government asset so getting back to what

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phil was saying access to these unique

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assets and these expertise is a

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significant benefit to companies like

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Blue Origin while we were doing the

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testing on the TCA at Stennis we were

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also testing the turbo pumps the liquid

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oxygen and liquid hydrogen turbo pumps

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at our facility in West Texas and now we

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have the engine fully put together and

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the testing of that engine is underway

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at our at our facility in West Texas

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this engine I want to point out is fully

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developed design and developed in-house

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at Blue Origin we do the analysis we do

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the design work a lot of the fabrication

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component testing in an engine testing

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of course and I've talked a little bit

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about the development plan but there's a

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pretty complex system and there's

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there's quite a few other components to

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00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:06,100
the the engine development program we're

554
00:21:09,149 --> 00:21:07,690
going to show a video of our of our

555
00:21:10,830 --> 00:21:09,159
tests at Stennis before we roll the

556
00:21:12,629 --> 00:21:10,840
video i just want to give you an idea of

557
00:21:15,210 --> 00:21:12,639
what you're going to see you're going to

558
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:15,220
see the engine the thrust chamber fire

559
00:21:21,299 --> 00:21:18,490
from the side the when it when it

560
00:21:22,859 --> 00:21:21,309
ignites the it will start out at the low

561
00:21:24,299 --> 00:21:22,869
throttle setting that will step up in a

562
00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:24,309
variety of throttle settings up to full

563
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,350
power the total test duration is about

564
00:21:54,890 --> 00:21:28,240
45 seconds so if we can go roll the

565
00:22:00,380 --> 00:21:57,350
again we call this engine to be III it's

566
00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:00,390
a it's a liquid oxygen liquid hydrogen

567
00:22:05,780 --> 00:22:04,200
engine thrust chamber and full power

568
00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:05,790
setting is a hundred thousand pounds so

569
00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:08,220
and it's it's turbo pump fed in its

570
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:09,720
final configuration but of course in

571
00:22:14,780 --> 00:22:11,610
these tests it's being run using the

572
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:14,790
pressure of the ground facility I got it

573
00:22:17,810 --> 00:22:15,930
I gotta hand it to the Stennis team

574
00:22:20,030 --> 00:22:17,820
again they've done a terrific job and I

575
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:20,040
think if you had them in the room here I

576
00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:21,690
think what we learned from them and what

577
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:23,430
they learn from us is how to work in a

578
00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:25,050
commercial manner how to speed up

579
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:27,510
development how to look at at those

580
00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:29,930
those assumptions that you you've made

581
00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:31,980
when doing things one way and then

582
00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:34,200
looking at when another company comes in

583
00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:35,550
and how you can accelerate your progress

584
00:22:39,410 --> 00:22:37,950
we we significantly rammed up ramped up

585
00:22:42,170 --> 00:22:39,420
our rate of testing over the period of

586
00:22:43,850 --> 00:22:42,180
this this test program and now it's

587
00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:43,860
getting getting multiple tests a day has

588
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:46,500
been a significant benefit to us so we

589
00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:49,110
can go to the next chart please I'm

590
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:50,160
going to talk about our crew capsule

591
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:55,290
escape system risk reduction project in

592
00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:58,020
October October 19th of 2012 we

593
00:23:02,600 --> 00:22:59,210
conducted a full end-to-end

594
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,610
demonstration of a pad escape system

595
00:23:07,370 --> 00:23:05,360
that will be used on our new Shepherd

596
00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:07,380
suborbital vehicle but it demonstrates

597
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:09,030
the technologies and integration

598
00:23:14,990 --> 00:23:12,090
required for an orbital system the the

599
00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:15,000
escape system is a pusher and it pushes

600
00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:18,270
the crew capsule from the back to a safe

601
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:20,100
distance away from the vehicle in the

602
00:23:25,460 --> 00:23:21,210
event that you have a mishap on the

603
00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:25,470
launch pad we liken or we think this

604
00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:26,910
escape system is analogous to the air

605
00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:29,340
bag in your car it's always there it's

606
00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:31,230
lightweight it's simple and reliable and

607
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:32,940
it's something that if you don't use it

608
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,530
on a mission you can you can just turn

609
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:36,480
around and fly your vehicle again and

610
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:38,730
again with the minimum of inspection the

611
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:42,690
the demonstration here demonstrated it

612
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:44,910
showed the escape motor firing it

613
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:46,050
demonstrated our thrust vector control

614
00:23:51,980 --> 00:23:48,330
system which was developed in-house at

615
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:51,990
Blue Origin we really we the Aerojet

616
00:23:54,770 --> 00:23:53,400
provides a solid rocket motor we

617
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:54,780
developed the thrust vector control

618
00:23:59,180 --> 00:23:56,610
system in the aft closure for the motor

619
00:24:01,390 --> 00:23:59,190
the guidance and control the parachute

620
00:24:03,470 --> 00:24:01,400
deployment the landing in the recovery

621
00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:03,480
like I mentioned this test was conducted

622
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:05,580
with our with our NASA partners on site

623
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:07,170
at our West Texas launch site on October

624
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:08,250
19th

625
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,710
and and it was the only powered flight

626
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:12,480
test under CC too so we're very proud of

627
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,890
that accomplishment there's a few

628
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,120
pictures at the bottom of the chart but

629
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:17,520
I want to pull up the video and before

630
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,290
we start the video i want to just kind

631
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:21,600
of explain what you're going to see the

632
00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:23,760
vehicle is mounted on top of what we

633
00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:26,550
call the booster simulator so it's

634
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:28,590
sitting on top of a a structure that

635
00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:31,110
represents the upper end of the the

636
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:32,430
booster that it's going to be escaping

637
00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:34,530
from that that booster simulator is

638
00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:36,840
fully instrumented it's with load cells

639
00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:39,150
pressure and thermal sensors so that

640
00:24:43,670 --> 00:24:41,220
post-flight we could reconstruct the

641
00:24:45,170 --> 00:24:43,680
environments that the booster vehicle

642
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:45,180
will see in an escape in an in-flight

643
00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:48,930
escape or a pad escape the vehicle

644
00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:50,280
itself of course was instrumented this

645
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:51,720
is a flight structure you'll notice it

646
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,250
doesn't have windows it also doesn't

647
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:55,200
have seats or life-support systems and

648
00:24:58,190 --> 00:24:56,850
and that's part of our incremental

649
00:25:01,640 --> 00:24:58,200
development program we wanted have a

650
00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:01,650
flight structure in place but we wanted

651
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:03,780
to fly this this vehicle in this pad

652
00:25:08,060 --> 00:25:06,600
escape environment measure the loads in

653
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:08,070
performance and then use what we've

654
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:09,450
learned from that to roll into our next

655
00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:12,210
version of the design so that's let's go

656
00:25:15,170 --> 00:25:13,260
ahead and roll the video and you'll see

657
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:15,180
see what we did and this video is

658
00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:26,419
now the vehicles pull significant

659
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:29,100
accelerations on on the escape it

660
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:31,440
reaches about 2,300 feet altitude above

661
00:25:36,380 --> 00:25:34,049
ground the parachutes deploy and it

662
00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:36,390
comes back it landed within seven feet

663
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:38,100
of our predicted touchdown point the

664
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:40,290
winds were light that day but we still

665
00:25:45,730 --> 00:25:42,240
are proud of the the accuracy of the

666
00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:48,710
following some stabilization that the

667
00:25:53,659 --> 00:25:51,480
main parachutes dis reef and the vehicle

668
00:25:55,789 --> 00:25:53,669
to send slowly under under the 33 main

669
00:26:09,840 --> 00:25:55,799
parachutes and touches down in the

670
00:26:09,850 --> 00:26:20,580
it was a beautiful day I might have

671
00:26:24,970 --> 00:26:23,590
so I want to close up with the point

672
00:26:27,490 --> 00:26:24,980
this this has been a great commercial

673
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:27,500
partnership we brought money to the

674
00:26:30,820 --> 00:26:29,690
table NASA brought many of the table and

675
00:26:32,919 --> 00:26:30,830
we were able to do some things that are

676
00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:32,929
that are very useful very effective and

677
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:36,039
helped blue to accelerate our progress

678
00:26:40,539 --> 00:26:38,690
we're very it's been a great

679
00:26:43,389 --> 00:26:40,549
relationship and I'm happy to announce

680
00:26:45,310 --> 00:26:43,399
that we're working with NASA to extend

681
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:45,320
our space act agreement in an unfunded

682
00:26:50,169 --> 00:26:48,110
manner so that we can continue the

683
00:26:52,899 --> 00:26:50,179
relationship continue to learn what we

684
00:26:55,419 --> 00:26:52,909
have from NASA continue to allow them to

685
00:26:56,769 --> 00:26:55,429
learn from us and that's something that

686
00:26:58,509 --> 00:26:56,779
we'll be working with them here in the

687
00:27:03,250 --> 00:26:58,519
next in the coming weeks and I'm very

688
00:27:04,629 --> 00:27:03,260
very pleased about that so thank you all

689
00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:04,639
right thank you and thank you phil

690
00:27:08,769 --> 00:27:06,470
annette and in your entire team it's an

691
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:08,779
honor and certainly exciting to be part

692
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:10,730
of this important new development effort

693
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:13,279
if we could go to my first slide they

694
00:27:19,330 --> 00:27:16,610
are focus on identifying and mitigating

695
00:27:21,549 --> 00:27:19,340
risks early in CC def to really ensured

696
00:27:23,769 --> 00:27:21,559
we could mature the design to the point

697
00:27:26,889 --> 00:27:23,779
that we could accomplish a successful

698
00:27:30,490 --> 00:27:26,899
PDR and transition strongly into into

699
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,500
CCI cap our focus was across all of our

700
00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:32,960
subsystems to make sure we identified

701
00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:35,750
key design and risk drivers and then and

702
00:27:39,639 --> 00:27:37,820
then perform the analysis and risk

703
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:39,649
demonstration Risk Reduction

704
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:42,470
demonstration testing that we needed to

705
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:45,230
successfully mature that design if we're

706
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,080
looking at structures and mechanisms we

707
00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:50,240
we manufactured two iterations of our

708
00:27:54,909 --> 00:27:52,820
pressurized pressurized crew module and

709
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,919
we're able to do proof and leak tests on

710
00:28:00,220 --> 00:27:57,200
it and also material testing to make

711
00:28:02,649 --> 00:28:00,230
sure that that the design properties on

712
00:28:06,370 --> 00:28:02,659
the as foreign material met all of our

713
00:28:08,289 --> 00:28:06,380
requirements we conducted a number of

714
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:08,299
composite material tests at higher

715
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:10,010
temperatures just to make sure that the

716
00:28:14,409 --> 00:28:11,450
the material would satisfy our

717
00:28:17,019 --> 00:28:14,419
requirements and early micrometeoroid

718
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:17,029
debris testing to help ensure that our

719
00:28:20,620 --> 00:28:19,010
thermal protection system design would

720
00:28:23,019 --> 00:28:20,630
would satisfy all of our safety

721
00:28:25,180 --> 00:28:23,029
requirements on the landing system which

722
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:25,190
is a combination of parachutes and

723
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:27,710
landing airbags we ran a number of

724
00:28:33,780 --> 00:28:31,090
parachute or to parachute drops

725
00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:33,790
and a large number of landing airbag

726
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:36,280
drop tests just to make sure that that

727
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:39,370
that design was was safe and robust in

728
00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:42,840
all types of landing environments

729
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,070
propulsion system we ran a number of

730
00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:47,440
single-engine propulsion tests the

731
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:50,500
service module that we have is is a

732
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:52,930
disposable service module that handles

733
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:54,910
not only the the launch abort propulsion

734
00:29:00,240 --> 00:28:57,850
but also the the on-orbit and an entry

735
00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:00,250
propulsion and ensuring that that this

736
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:03,190
these legacy engines modify to our

737
00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:04,930
requirements would perform all the tasks

738
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:07,150
early in the design cycle really helped

739
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:10,150
by down some development risks and we

740
00:29:13,950 --> 00:29:12,040
also went out to Ames and the wind

741
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:13,960
tunnel tests and and had a large number

742
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:16,150
of runs and and helped us build up our

743
00:29:20,910 --> 00:29:18,850
aerodynamic database to make sure the

744
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:20,920
vehicle the word designing could

745
00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:22,510
withstand the loads and was also

746
00:29:29,250 --> 00:29:25,780
controllable in in all flight regimes on

747
00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:29,260
to the next test another big focus on on

748
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:33,220
our effort to integrate integrate with

749
00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:35,500
with the launch vehicle one of the

750
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:37,660
things we did early on to the next page

751
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,000
was was to bring in the emergency

752
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:42,640
detection system that's being designed

753
00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:44,920
and built by united launch alliance from

754
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:46,630
corporation into the Atlas 5 launch

755
00:29:52,530 --> 00:29:49,810
vehicle and and run early testing on an

756
00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:52,540
EDS emulator integrated with our with

757
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:54,700
our software and our flight computer to

758
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:57,010
make sure verily very early in the

759
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,960
software development process that the

760
00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:01,120
two systems were compatible or could

761
00:30:06,380 --> 00:30:03,070
talk to each other and with satisfy all

762
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:06,390
requirements we also ran a number of

763
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:09,610
never integrated test between between

764
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:12,010
our flight software system and our

765
00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:13,870
autonomous rendezvous and docking system

766
00:30:18,090 --> 00:30:15,550
which obviously is a critical piece of

767
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:18,100
this development effort to make sure

768
00:30:23,610 --> 00:30:20,650
that that those systems were compatible

769
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,620
and would meet our requirements and a

770
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:26,080
large effort on unidentified different

771
00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:28,630
different options for our cockpit and

772
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:31,060
then moving moving quickly at the end of

773
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:33,250
CCDF tudi to finalize that cockpit

774
00:30:40,890 --> 00:30:38,010
design with the number of human factors

775
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:40,900
tests in the cockpit to make sure that

776
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:42,610
that all of the panels were laid out

777
00:30:46,410 --> 00:30:44,530
correctly we could satisfy

778
00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:46,420
not only normal mission operations but

779
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:48,670
but also anomalies that that the crew

780
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:51,250
could could expect to encounter so a lot

781
00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:54,130
of work just making sure we identified

782
00:31:00,330 --> 00:30:56,920
those risks and we're comfortable moving

783
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:00,340
into into CCI cap going to the next

784
00:31:07,230 --> 00:31:04,510
chart you know the real focus of CTI cap

785
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:07,240
is final design maturation and moving

786
00:31:12,030 --> 00:31:09,520
into to a quality critical design review

787
00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:12,040
and and so our focus was laying out a

788
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:15,520
plan that integrated key milestones

789
00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:17,710
across all of the different development

790
00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:20,590
segments both spacecraft the launch

791
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:22,300
vehicle obviously which is which is

792
00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:24,850
critical to us but also production and

793
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:27,700
operations so across this entire plan

794
00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:32,640
we've got a number of very important and

795
00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:35,350
milestones that that we have that our

796
00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:37,540
team is working on to accomplish in

797
00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:39,550
January of this year we've got we've got

798
00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:43,390
two milestones actually in the next

799
00:31:47,670 --> 00:31:44,950
couple of weeks we'll be we'll be

800
00:31:50,130 --> 00:31:47,680
releasing our first fight software

801
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:50,140
iteration of our on-orbit configuration

802
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:52,210
and and the team is in the lab now

803
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:54,190
running tests on that and it looks like

804
00:31:59,490 --> 00:31:57,250
that is a is moving along real well and

805
00:32:01,470 --> 00:31:59,500
then later on this month will also be

806
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:01,480
conducting actually next week our

807
00:32:05,070 --> 00:32:02,710
landing in recovery and ground

808
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:05,080
communication design review just to make

809
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:06,970
sure we have the plans and the equipment

810
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:08,980
and and the infrastructure we're going

811
00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:10,630
to need not only to communicate from the

812
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:12,400
ground but also to recover safely

813
00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:16,090
recover and and transport transport the

814
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:18,420
capsule after its after its landed

815
00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:20,770
looking at some of the others will move

816
00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:22,630
very quickly into a preliminary design

817
00:32:27,690 --> 00:32:24,750
review with with United Launch Alliance

818
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:27,700
one of our key partners on on the launch

819
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:29,890
vehicle adapter that'll be the adapter

820
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:31,510
plate between their launch vehicle and

821
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:34,720
our and our capsule will be going back

822
00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:36,850
and doing more wind tunnel tests in fact

823
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:38,380
we've got five different wind tunnel

824
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,750
test series between march and august of

825
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:42,880
this year just so that we make sure we

826
00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:45,190
have a healthy and robust aerodynamic

827
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:47,500
database so that we can finalize all of

828
00:32:53,370 --> 00:32:51,370
our designs we've got a dual engine

829
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:53,380
centaur duck tests that we've got

830
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:55,900
scheduled later this year the dual

831
00:33:00,160 --> 00:32:57,890
engine centaur actually is flown 104

832
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:00,170
successful missions but but not on the

833
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:02,630
Atlas 5 previous versions of the Atlas

834
00:33:08,050 --> 00:33:05,110
and so we are going to do a number of

835
00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:08,060
component updates and so that work is

836
00:33:11,530 --> 00:33:10,100
understood understood but but it's

837
00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:11,540
something that we want to go demonstrate

838
00:33:17,380 --> 00:33:14,750
I will have a number of engine test runs

839
00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:17,390
again with the with pratt whitney

840
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:19,640
rocketdyne designed service module

841
00:33:23,620 --> 00:33:21,470
propulsion system just to make sure that

842
00:33:25,950 --> 00:33:23,630
that the final design configuration of

843
00:33:29,290 --> 00:33:25,960
those engines will meet all requirements

844
00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:29,300
will move in and with our partnership

845
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:31,520
with Mission Operations Director to JSC

846
00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:33,710
who is very integral to our team and

847
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:35,900
adds a tremendous amount of expertise

848
00:33:41,170 --> 00:33:37,910
will be doing a Mission Control Center

849
00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:41,180
interface demonstration tests moving on

850
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:43,000
with some more production demonstrations

851
00:33:48,940 --> 00:33:47,120
and then in December of this year our

852
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:48,950
multi stirring demonstration of our

853
00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:50,840
flight software which which will be a

854
00:33:56,110 --> 00:33:53,780
very important milestone all focused on

855
00:33:58,420 --> 00:33:56,120
you know in this phase early on right

856
00:34:01,330 --> 00:33:58,430
now we're really focusing on component

857
00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:01,340
PDRs moving very quickly later this year

858
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:04,580
into component CDRs and and then into

859
00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:07,490
subsystem cd-rs everything focused on

860
00:34:11,409 --> 00:34:09,560
making sure we we properly and

861
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:11,419
aggressively mature the design so that

862
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,720
we can have a very robust critical

863
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:16,159
design review at the end of this face

864
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,100
give us confidence that we can we can

865
00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:20,960
move in with very low risk into the

866
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:23,240
qualification and flight demonstration

867
00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:26,090
face a lot a lot of good work teams

868
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:28,580
really excited and and in the first

869
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:30,620
three milestones we we have accomplished

870
00:34:35,470 --> 00:34:33,290
moving on to the next page on schedule

871
00:34:38,169 --> 00:34:35,480
which is which is very good the first

872
00:34:40,990 --> 00:34:38,179
one coming into into CCI cap was the

873
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:41,000
integrated system review we had a number

874
00:34:44,919 --> 00:34:43,370
of systems that we had some open trades

875
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,929
on that we needed to complete going

876
00:34:49,389 --> 00:34:46,480
through the preliminary design review

877
00:34:51,310 --> 00:34:49,399
and it was really important to to burn

878
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:51,320
down all of those design trades well

879
00:34:56,649 --> 00:34:54,830
before we moved into CCI cap our team

880
00:34:59,920 --> 00:34:56,659
was able to do that and that really led

881
00:35:02,830 --> 00:34:59,930
us snap that baseline design and move

882
00:35:05,110 --> 00:35:02,840
into the final design release and start

883
00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:05,120
producing those products that we need

884
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:07,700
the next thing we did the next milestone

885
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:10,010
was a production design review it was

886
00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:11,330
important for us

887
00:35:15,610 --> 00:35:13,190
early to make sure that we had the right

888
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:15,620
plans equipment and infrastructure so

889
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:17,930
that we could efficiently produce the

890
00:35:22,060 --> 00:35:19,850
design that that we were coming up with

891
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:22,070
and and so getting that that early

892
00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:24,560
design review and that focus making sure

893
00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:26,390
that that the design that we were

894
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:28,420
producing would be manufactured

895
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:32,090
manufacturable officially was was a real

896
00:35:36,730 --> 00:35:34,250
benefit along with bringing in a lot of

897
00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:36,740
expertise from across Boeing both the

898
00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:39,830
commercial the commercial airplane side

899
00:35:43,150 --> 00:35:41,480
and also some of the military and

900
00:35:44,860 --> 00:35:43,160
defense that have a lot of production

901
00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:44,870
experience and making sure we're

902
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:46,430
bringing in those best practices was

903
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:51,110
good huge focus on safety obviously and

904
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:52,970
and having that phase one safety review

905
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:54,590
completed early in the design process

906
00:35:59,980 --> 00:35:58,130
again so that you can use the safety

907
00:36:02,260 --> 00:35:59,990
analysis to make sure you help inform

908
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:02,270
the design I was really important in the

909
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:03,770
phase one safety review helped us

910
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:06,800
identify all the hazards the causes and

911
00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:08,930
the controls just to make sure that we

912
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,300
were appropriately embedding safety in

913
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:13,760
all of our designs and then a lot of

914
00:36:16,750 --> 00:36:15,530
work as I mentioned before about making

915
00:36:18,490 --> 00:36:16,760
sure that we were addressing human

916
00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:18,500
factors and that our cockpit was laid

917
00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:20,270
out it's really important to do that

918
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:23,030
early so that we can snap that snap that

919
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:25,910
baseline design and move forward and so

920
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:28,160
the team was able to do that under the

921
00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:32,570
next chart as I mentioned a lot of focus

922
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,390
is faizan making sure we we get to final

923
00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:38,480
design release and mature the design the

924
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:40,460
teams as they're heading to to see dr

925
00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:43,040
have a number of again risk reduction

926
00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:44,750
demonstration test that they're going to

927
00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:46,790
need to get through their design cycle

928
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:49,670
with high confidence a real focus on

929
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:51,710
making sure we're bringing an integrated

930
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,570
system to the table and so our

931
00:36:58,720 --> 00:36:55,280
partnership with you with some of our

932
00:37:00,130 --> 00:36:58,730
really important partners like ula pratt

933
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:00,140
whitney rocketdyne on the propulsion

934
00:37:05,410 --> 00:37:03,200
Aerojet on crew module propulsion an

935
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:05,420
integrated team focus making sure we're

936
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:08,030
moving forward again our partnership

937
00:37:12,190 --> 00:37:10,010
with with Mission Operations I can't

938
00:37:15,010 --> 00:37:12,200
understate that that bringing in that

939
00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:15,020
that legacy experience really helped

940
00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:17,480
drive down a significant amount of risk

941
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,700
that you would have trying to stand up

942
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:21,200
that capability so getting that

943
00:37:27,110 --> 00:37:23,850
expertise in was was critical

944
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:27,120
and then you know one of our real

945
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,370
focuses and run of the real benefits has

946
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:30,960
been our partnership with space Florida

947
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,470
and the ability to to partner with them

948
00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:36,480
on the use of the old orbiter processing

949
00:37:42,980 --> 00:37:40,200
facility three here at here at KSC that

950
00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:42,990
partnership has been outstanding and and

951
00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:45,150
they've actually as you can see and some

952
00:37:49,550 --> 00:37:46,830
of the pictures on the bottom left have

953
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:49,560
that have that building cleaned out now

954
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:51,720
and and they're they're starting in on

955
00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:53,810
the modification process right now and

956
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:56,190
we'll be ready to hand over the keys to

957
00:38:00,200 --> 00:37:57,930
us this summer so that's been

958
00:38:01,940 --> 00:38:00,210
outstanding to be able to make sure

959
00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:01,950
we're able to use not only the skilled

960
00:38:06,590 --> 00:38:04,950
resources here in Florida but also some

961
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:06,600
outstanding infrastructure so that's

962
00:38:11,330 --> 00:38:09,090
been a real bonus for us and the team's

963
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:11,340
really excited to to get in there and

964
00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:14,010
start using that so I'd say you know our

965
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:17,270
team has has really ramped seamlessly

966
00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:19,890
from the preliminary design phase into

967
00:38:24,350 --> 00:38:21,840
this final design phase we're really

968
00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:24,360
excited about the work we've got on our

969
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:26,220
plate and the progress we've made to

970
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:33,540
date thank you Mark sorry likes you to

971
00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:35,910
finish didn't have a video hi everyone

972
00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:37,980
I'm marks or Angela from Sierra Nevada

973
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,870
and I'm really thrilled to be here today

974
00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:41,520
to give you an update on what we've been

975
00:38:45,830 --> 00:38:43,980
doing with our program and we have had a

976
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:45,840
major amount of success over the last

977
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,460
couple of years and we're very fortunate

978
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:49,440
to be part of this program and be part

979
00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:51,210
of the activity that's going on it's I

980
00:38:55,220 --> 00:38:53,220
think it's one of the best sled programs

981
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:55,230
that we've been involved with through

982
00:38:58,970 --> 00:38:56,970
our history we're celebrating our 25th

983
00:39:02,060 --> 00:38:58,980
anniversary in space this year and have

984
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:02,070
now over 70 missions with NASA and over

985
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:04,890
420 missions to space in total and I

986
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,510
have to say that the development of this

987
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,640
program really has been extraordinary

988
00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:10,800
because not only is it been well run but

989
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:12,780
the new ground that we've been trying to

990
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,330
cover and put together has been amazing

991
00:39:19,310 --> 00:39:17,760
how much how much activity has to go on

992
00:39:21,350 --> 00:39:19,320
to get this program to be where it is

993
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:21,360
and I think as you heard from all of us

994
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:23,850
and you will hear from space X in a few

995
00:39:27,830 --> 00:39:26,130
minutes we are we are moving forward

996
00:39:29,090 --> 00:39:27,840
very rapidly and I think it's a

997
00:39:32,450 --> 00:39:29,100
testament to where we are with the

998
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,460
program our 2012 has been a wonderful

999
00:39:36,740 --> 00:39:35,040
year and I think part of what we we like

1000
00:39:37,499 --> 00:39:36,750
to talk about here besides the hardware

1001
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:37,509
is the passion

1002
00:39:41,339 --> 00:39:39,249
involved with this we've been involved

1003
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,349
with developing our dream chaser vehicle

1004
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:43,839
now for over ten years and when you come

1005
00:39:47,249 --> 00:39:45,609
see us and when you come be part of our

1006
00:39:48,929 --> 00:39:47,259
experience you can see the amount of

1007
00:39:50,669 --> 00:39:48,939
people who are amazingly passionate and

1008
00:39:52,949 --> 00:39:50,679
I have them I believe the best team in

1009
00:39:54,989 --> 00:39:52,959
the industry behind this coming from all

1010
00:39:57,389 --> 00:39:54,999
over the country to come part of the

1011
00:39:59,669 --> 00:39:57,399
become part of this journey in we've

1012
00:40:01,499 --> 00:39:59,679
completed now over 20 mile stones across

1013
00:40:03,929 --> 00:40:01,509
our programs we've been part of this

1014
00:40:05,819 --> 00:40:03,939
from the very beginning with NASA and

1015
00:40:08,699 --> 00:40:05,829
those those milestones have been a

1016
00:40:10,889 --> 00:40:08,709
mixture of very technical and program

1017
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:10,899
element milestones with a lot of

1018
00:40:14,969 --> 00:40:12,609
hardware and it's part of our belief

1019
00:40:17,279 --> 00:40:14,979
that hardware development can go side by

1020
00:40:19,529 --> 00:40:17,289
side behind technical development and

1021
00:40:21,149 --> 00:40:19,539
program management to make sure that

1022
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:21,159
that everything gets moved along at the

1023
00:40:26,189 --> 00:40:23,529
same kind of pace during this past year

1024
00:40:28,019 --> 00:40:26,199
with many milestones have been completed

1025
00:40:29,789 --> 00:40:28,029
and I'll go through a few of those but I

1026
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:29,799
think as you see them that really what

1027
00:40:34,229 --> 00:40:32,319
stands out is that we've gone from being

1028
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:34,239
something that is conceptual to being

1029
00:40:38,249 --> 00:40:35,649
something that is now a full flight

1030
00:40:40,379 --> 00:40:38,259
sighs vehicle ready to start its flight

1031
00:40:42,809 --> 00:40:40,389
tests and in a very short period of time

1032
00:40:44,699 --> 00:40:42,819
that's in my view that's one of the

1033
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:44,709
greatest accomplishments we can do if we

1034
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:48,729
go to next slide please this these

1035
00:40:52,529 --> 00:40:50,649
accomplishments come from a number of

1036
00:40:53,759 --> 00:40:52,539
different places and I want to point out

1037
00:40:55,229 --> 00:40:53,769
a couple of them not just because of

1038
00:40:57,479 --> 00:40:55,239
what they are but because of what they

1039
00:40:59,309 --> 00:40:57,489
represent our wind tunnel testing was

1040
00:41:03,059 --> 00:40:59,319
done through the partnership and

1041
00:41:05,459 --> 00:41:03,069
cooperation of both university we did

1042
00:41:07,049 --> 00:41:05,469
some work at Texas A&M as well as NASA

1043
00:41:09,149 --> 00:41:07,059
centers where we did work both at

1044
00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:09,159
Langley and Marshall and it's our

1045
00:41:12,479 --> 00:41:10,479
philosophy and it's been from the very

1046
00:41:14,129 --> 00:41:12,489
beginning that this is a team effort we

1047
00:41:15,509 --> 00:41:14,139
now have over a dozen industrial

1048
00:41:17,789 --> 00:41:15,519
companies involved three universities

1049
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:17,799
and seven NASA centers who are part of

1050
00:41:22,109 --> 00:41:20,049
our program and it's this collective

1051
00:41:24,269 --> 00:41:22,119
group of very talented people who have

1052
00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:24,279
the same kind of passion around moving

1053
00:41:28,379 --> 00:41:26,380
forward a vehicle that really has made

1054
00:41:29,939 --> 00:41:28,389
this very special for us and the wind

1055
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:29,949
tunnel testing that we've done in both

1056
00:41:34,259 --> 00:41:32,169
in all three of the area's really move

1057
00:41:35,609 --> 00:41:34,269
the design forward at a pace that we

1058
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,619
could never have done on our own and

1059
00:41:38,819 --> 00:41:37,119
we're very thankful for all our partners

1060
00:41:42,389 --> 00:41:38,829
and the way that they've interacted with

1061
00:41:44,249 --> 00:41:42,399
us next slide please I think when you do

1062
00:41:45,899 --> 00:41:44,259
something like this there's certainly a

1063
00:41:47,699 --> 00:41:45,909
lot of excitement that comes in but

1064
00:41:49,259 --> 00:41:47,709
nothing more exciting than when you're

1065
00:41:51,029 --> 00:41:49,269
actually starting to build the actual

1066
00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:51,039
vehicle and when you can put your hands

1067
00:41:52,850 --> 00:41:51,540
on in

1068
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,860
you can see how it comes and gets

1069
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:54,240
developed and you can see it start

1070
00:41:58,100 --> 00:41:56,070
flying and this past year sauce

1071
00:41:59,930 --> 00:41:58,110
developing what we call our ETA or

1072
00:42:01,700 --> 00:41:59,940
engineering test article where we've

1073
00:42:03,530 --> 00:42:01,710
been able to put it together and the

1074
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:03,540
first vehicle was done to do structural

1075
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:05,610
tests and loads tests on the vehicle and

1076
00:42:09,740 --> 00:42:07,890
the second vehicle was built to actually

1077
00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:09,750
start its flight regime next slide

1078
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,630
please and we're very pleased to say

1079
00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:14,160
that that structure was completed during

1080
00:42:19,940 --> 00:42:16,980
the course of this year and began its

1081
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:19,950
early stage testing with a captive carry

1082
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:23,040
done in in Colorado over Memorial Day

1083
00:42:27,860 --> 00:42:25,170
weekend of this past year this is the

1084
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:27,870
full size vehicle full full regime of

1085
00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:29,940
the vehicle it's not fully outfitted for

1086
00:42:34,850 --> 00:42:32,460
orbital flight but to be able to go from

1087
00:42:37,070 --> 00:42:34,860
from concept to go back into the

1088
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:37,080
assembly hangar and see something being

1089
00:42:41,060 --> 00:42:39,300
built is is really extraordinary from my

1090
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:41,070
from my point of view next slide please

1091
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:44,610
and you can see pictures of this we were

1092
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:45,900
very fortunate in Colorado I'll have

1093
00:42:51,410 --> 00:42:49,680
some very good backdrops and we get take

1094
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:51,420
advantage of them and it was really

1095
00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:52,770
pretty special because we actually did

1096
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:54,900
it over Memorial Day weekend and what

1097
00:42:58,910 --> 00:42:57,090
you see below this is is the University

1098
00:43:00,920 --> 00:42:58,920
of Colorado in Boulder where scott

1099
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:00,930
Carpenter lives and happened to also be

1100
00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:02,940
the 50th anniversary of his flight so we

1101
00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:04,950
were able to to really have a nice

1102
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,360
tie-in for what we were trying to

1103
00:43:10,670 --> 00:43:08,640
accomplish next slide please other

1104
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:10,680
highlights from the year we we did above

1105
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:13,530
a test model we developed and started

1106
00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:15,930
advancing our ecosystems we started

1107
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:18,270
doing our simulating simulated for

1108
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:20,850
docking and have now have a simulator up

1109
00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:22,410
and running and soon to have a more

1110
00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:24,420
advanced simulator completed and we've

1111
00:43:29,410 --> 00:43:26,190
did some very structural and important

1112
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:29,420
elements like landing gear and testing

1113
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:34,020
next slide one of the I think one of the

1114
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,700
things that gets lost in this program is

1115
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:37,440
how important it is to our country and

1116
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:40,110
how important it is to our industry we

1117
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:42,420
were participants in the rollout of

1118
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,700
Atlantis here as it as it went through

1119
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:47,280
the center in Kennedy and because in

1120
00:43:51,230 --> 00:43:49,050
many ways we feel where the emotional

1121
00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:51,240
successor to what has gone on with the

1122
00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:53,400
shuttle we thank the program leadership

1123
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:55,260
a lot we think our partnerships a lot

1124
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,850
but sometimes what we don't do is thank

1125
00:43:59,460 --> 00:43:58,800
all the thousands of people in NASA who

1126
00:44:01,290 --> 00:43:59,470
have

1127
00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:01,300
worked tirelessly over the years

1128
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:03,700
throughout the the moon programs and

1129
00:44:06,270 --> 00:44:05,080
before that and certainly through the

1130
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:06,280
hundred and thirty-five Shuttle missions

1131
00:44:10,460 --> 00:44:08,410
and we wanted to say thank you to that

1132
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:10,470
and because we feel we've picked up that

1133
00:44:14,370 --> 00:44:12,880
not only the the knowledge from that

1134
00:44:16,770 --> 00:44:14,380
program but the emotion behind that

1135
00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:16,780
program and one of the things we saw as

1136
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:19,990
we came through for the Atlantis is how

1137
00:44:24,990 --> 00:44:22,510
many people came up to us and how many

1138
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:25,000
people we had lines going on people just

1139
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:26,710
waited in line to sit and just talk to

1140
00:44:30,359 --> 00:44:28,930
us and and we feel certainly special

1141
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:30,369
about that but I think what that says is

1142
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:32,170
how important this program is to our

1143
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:34,510
country into our industry people want to

1144
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:36,880
believe they want to feel the expiration

1145
00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:39,760
means something and I think as we all

1146
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:42,580
have seen that we feel that that emotion

1147
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:44,530
is important to this country the the

1148
00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:46,420
number of students and kids that came up

1149
00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:47,590
to us who are going to be the next

1150
00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:49,060
generation of people sitting on the

1151
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:51,220
podium like this they get inspired by

1152
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:53,530
this as we got inspired by it and and I

1153
00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:55,180
can't say how important that is to our

1154
00:45:00,660 --> 00:44:57,340
country into our program next slide

1155
00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:00,670
please our growth has been significant

1156
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,820
we've we've hired many many people from

1157
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:05,920
all over the industry people were really

1158
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:08,020
talented people we we are expanding our

1159
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:09,280
facilities we're putting on a new

1160
00:45:13,230 --> 00:45:11,380
dedicated assembly and design and

1161
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:13,240
engineering center that will be standing

1162
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:15,550
up in the next couple of months we'll be

1163
00:45:20,099 --> 00:45:17,920
adding probably up towards 100 new

1164
00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:20,109
people throughout the country in this

1165
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:23,140
next year in 2013 where we have seven

1166
00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:24,940
NASA centers who are engaged with us as

1167
00:45:28,650 --> 00:45:26,680
an ascend multiple universities and a

1168
00:45:33,410 --> 00:45:28,660
number of very significant partners that

1169
00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:33,420
are part of the program next slide in

1170
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,980
2013 we're going to see some we think

1171
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:37,599
some very major advances we're going to

1172
00:45:41,339 --> 00:45:39,730
complete our integrated system in design

1173
00:45:43,890 --> 00:45:41,349
review we've completed that it's one

1174
00:45:45,150 --> 00:45:43,900
part of the CCI cap milestone actually

1175
00:45:48,060 --> 00:45:45,160
have completed first two milestones

1176
00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:48,070
under the CCI cap program and are about

1177
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,660
to in the next two weeks to complete our

1178
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:51,280
third so that program is moving very

1179
00:45:57,420 --> 00:45:54,190
quickly and very positively forward I

1180
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:57,430
think most most evident and will be the

1181
00:46:01,140 --> 00:45:58,570
fact that we're going to start our

1182
00:46:03,089 --> 00:46:01,150
actual flight test program this year our

1183
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:03,099
vehicle our flight vehicle is now being

1184
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:04,960
finally assembled and will be moved out

1185
00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:07,930
to Edwards Air Force Base where the

1186
00:46:12,059 --> 00:46:10,300
Dryden Flight Center nasan Dryden will

1187
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:12,069
be helping us do the work and

1188
00:46:15,329 --> 00:46:13,690
and we think that's just the right thing

1189
00:46:17,549 --> 00:46:15,339
to do in many ways that the facility

1190
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:17,559
there has been the home of so many tests

1191
00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:19,569
including the shuttle test and we're

1192
00:46:23,309 --> 00:46:21,160
going to be picking that mantle up and

1193
00:46:24,749 --> 00:46:23,319
starting our first flight tests here in

1194
00:46:26,459 --> 00:46:24,759
the first quarter of this year with the

1195
00:46:29,069 --> 00:46:26,469
vehicle autonomous flight tests will

1196
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:29,079
happen and that will be a drop full drop

1197
00:46:33,029 --> 00:46:31,089
in a full autonomous flight so things

1198
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:33,039
are moving very rapidly our motor

1199
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,400
testing is going on in our California

1200
00:46:41,189 --> 00:46:38,400
facility and we'll be doing continued

1201
00:46:42,989 --> 00:46:41,199
rocket motor testing there and we'll be

1202
00:46:45,059 --> 00:46:42,999
doing things like our reaction control

1203
00:46:46,529 --> 00:46:45,069
system and many other hardware

1204
00:46:48,839 --> 00:46:46,539
activities so it's going to be a very

1205
00:46:50,969 --> 00:46:48,849
full year full of milestones and full

1206
00:46:54,839 --> 00:46:50,979
very visible hardware milestones as well

1207
00:46:56,849 --> 00:46:54,849
next and as I close out in the last

1208
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:56,859
minute we have a very short video but I

1209
00:47:00,410 --> 00:46:58,930
wanted to express our appreciation to

1210
00:47:02,459 --> 00:47:00,420
the press as well we talked a lot about

1211
00:47:03,959 --> 00:47:02,469
what's going on you guys put a lot of

1212
00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:03,969
effort in here but it's important that

1213
00:47:07,890 --> 00:47:06,099
you get the story out that the human

1214
00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:07,900
spaceflight is not dead in America there

1215
00:47:11,489 --> 00:47:09,880
is a there are at least four companies

1216
00:47:13,319 --> 00:47:11,499
represented here who are working very

1217
00:47:15,059 --> 00:47:13,329
hard to make that happen in partnership

1218
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:15,069
with NASA and as we go through our

1219
00:47:18,059 --> 00:47:16,690
budget cycles it's really important to

1220
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:18,069
be able to say for not a lot of money

1221
00:47:22,019 --> 00:47:20,130
we've made tremendous progress and

1222
00:47:23,279 --> 00:47:22,029
continuing to make tremendous progress

1223
00:47:40,290 --> 00:47:23,289
and I thank you for that if you could

1224
00:47:40,300 --> 00:48:48,370
you

1225
00:49:00,249 --> 00:48:55,990
I like to turn it over to Garrett now

1226
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:00,259
from SpaceX nice work mm-hmm Thanks so

1227
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,170
if I can start with my first slide so

1228
00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:04,880
about a year and a half ago SpaceX

1229
00:49:09,279 --> 00:49:07,190
started partnering with NASA to work on

1230
00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:09,289
crew and this was really really

1231
00:49:13,870 --> 00:49:11,240
important to SpaceX for a number of

1232
00:49:16,059 --> 00:49:13,880
reasons first being that the company was

1233
00:49:18,490 --> 00:49:16,069
founded with the sole intent or sole

1234
00:49:20,650 --> 00:49:18,500
purpose of advancing the cause of human

1235
00:49:22,089 --> 00:49:20,660
space flight and so this is really what

1236
00:49:23,529 --> 00:49:22,099
we're all about and so having this

1237
00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:23,539
opportunity to be part of the Commercial

1238
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:26,230
Crew program is very special to us

1239
00:49:32,049 --> 00:49:29,690
second reason is is that you know for

1240
00:49:33,999 --> 00:49:32,059
well over a year now since atlantis came

1241
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:34,009
to wheel stop the United States of

1242
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:36,710
America no longer has the capability to

1243
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:39,529
launch people into space and that's

1244
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:41,990
something that that we are not happy

1245
00:49:46,930 --> 00:49:44,000
about venture so far as I said and

1246
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:46,940
nobody's sitting up here on this panel

1247
00:49:51,940 --> 00:49:49,970
is happy about that but we're very very

1248
00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:51,950
proud to be part of the group The

1249
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:53,240
Commercial Crew program that's going to

1250
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:54,650
do something about that and get

1251
00:49:59,259 --> 00:49:57,680
Americans back into space and its basics

1252
00:50:01,749 --> 00:49:59,269
we feel a sense of urgency to get

1253
00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:01,759
Americans back into space on safe and

1254
00:50:07,569 --> 00:50:04,700
reliable transportation on american-made

1255
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:07,579
rockets and so I'm very happy for that

1256
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:10,970
reason to be here today so during the

1257
00:50:15,789 --> 00:50:14,240
first program sisa dev too we were in a

1258
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:15,799
bit of a unique position in space that's

1259
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:17,930
because we already have a rocket in a

1260
00:50:21,279 --> 00:50:19,970
spacecraft that is traveling to the

1261
00:50:22,749 --> 00:50:21,289
space station in fact we've gone back

1262
00:50:25,210 --> 00:50:22,759
and forth to the space station out twice

1263
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:25,220
on cargo missions so we took the

1264
00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:27,680
approach in CC dev to figuring out well

1265
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:29,150
what do we have to do to modify this

1266
00:50:34,569 --> 00:50:32,480
rocket and this spacecraft to not only

1267
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:34,579
carry cargo but to carry people now this

1268
00:50:38,529 --> 00:50:35,839
wasn't that hard because from the very

1269
00:50:40,809 --> 00:50:38,539
beginning we intended to do this and on

1270
00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:40,819
our first cargo flight that vehicle had

1271
00:50:45,970 --> 00:50:43,160
windows for example that's a superficial

1272
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:45,980
example but technically we had built

1273
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:48,710
into this vehicle the capability to meet

1274
00:50:52,299 --> 00:50:50,329
human rating requirements from the very

1275
00:50:54,849 --> 00:50:52,309
beginning and so there were still some

1276
00:50:56,769 --> 00:50:54,859
things we needed to do technol technical

1277
00:50:58,990 --> 00:50:56,779
challenges that we needed to overcome to

1278
00:51:01,150 --> 00:50:59,000
get ready to carry people so that's what

1279
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:01,160
we focused on the CCF to is primarily

1280
00:51:03,490 --> 00:51:01,910
the law

1281
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:03,500
shibaura system so we built a new engine

1282
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:05,510
which we call the super Draco it's a

1283
00:51:10,299 --> 00:51:08,329
seventeen thousand pound thrust hyper

1284
00:51:13,390 --> 00:51:10,309
collagen and that we're going to use

1285
00:51:16,059 --> 00:51:13,400
eight of those to provide basically an

1286
00:51:17,319 --> 00:51:16,069
injection capability for the crew for to

1287
00:51:18,940 --> 00:51:17,329
take from the safety and event that the

1288
00:51:21,130 --> 00:51:18,950
Falcon 9 rocket is having a bad day so

1289
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:21,140
we developed engine we developed a test

1290
00:51:26,109 --> 00:51:24,049
stand to test the engine and we

1291
00:51:30,010 --> 00:51:26,119
developed all the related components we

1292
00:51:31,390 --> 00:51:30,020
also um we also worked on all the other

1293
00:51:32,620 --> 00:51:31,400
things you need to do for that people

1294
00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:32,630
need that cargo doesn't need so we

1295
00:51:37,089 --> 00:51:35,180
worked on seats on spacesuits on life

1296
00:51:38,770 --> 00:51:37,099
control systems how we're going to

1297
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:38,780
modify our launch pad all those

1298
00:51:41,799 --> 00:51:40,190
different things that we need to do for

1299
00:51:44,020 --> 00:51:41,809
crew and finally we did a bunch of

1300
00:51:45,579 --> 00:51:44,030
homework a bunch of analyses to make

1301
00:51:47,980 --> 00:51:45,589
sure that our designs were heading in

1302
00:51:49,210 --> 00:51:47,990
the right way and last we did a couple

1303
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:49,220
crew trials where we brought NASA

1304
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:50,890
astronauts and had them sit in a

1305
00:51:56,799 --> 00:51:54,250
prototype of the cabin of the Dragon and

1306
00:51:59,380 --> 00:51:56,809
evaluated for ergonomics and human

1307
00:52:01,870 --> 00:51:59,390
factors so we did all that in that one

1308
00:52:04,990 --> 00:52:01,880
year and we completed everything back in

1309
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,000
June of last year so that's all done and

1310
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:07,760
then we moved on and I'm sorry in the

1311
00:52:11,980 --> 00:52:10,250
next slide there's some pretty pictures

1312
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:11,990
of some of those things that we did you

1313
00:52:15,730 --> 00:52:14,750
see a depiction of the interior of the

1314
00:52:18,010 --> 00:52:15,740
cabin what that's going to look like

1315
00:52:20,019 --> 00:52:18,020
we're going to have two rows of sittings

1316
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:20,029
will be stadium seating upper row there

1317
00:52:27,789 --> 00:52:22,970
is first class the bomb low is that's

1318
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:27,799
the coach I guess so but that's what's

1319
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:28,910
going to look like any inside the

1320
00:52:32,829 --> 00:52:30,650
pitcher the rocket engine there is our

1321
00:52:34,299 --> 00:52:32,839
super Draco engine firing on our test n

1322
00:52:37,329 --> 00:52:34,309
that we built in just a few months in

1323
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:37,339
our facility in Texas you see some of

1324
00:52:40,450 --> 00:52:38,750
the modifications we had planned for the

1325
00:52:43,269 --> 00:52:40,460
tower in the middle picture on the

1326
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,279
bottom is some testing we were doing of

1327
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:45,680
our carbon dioxide scrubbing for the

1328
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:47,450
life support system and finally see a

1329
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:49,609
picture of prototype spacesuit that we

1330
00:52:54,579 --> 00:52:51,890
worked on so that was all done and

1331
00:52:57,279 --> 00:52:54,589
finished back in June of last year so

1332
00:53:00,849 --> 00:52:57,289
moving on into cci cap which we're very

1333
00:53:04,839 --> 00:53:00,859
proud to be a part of we basically have

1334
00:53:05,799 --> 00:53:04,849
four main focus areas for CCI cap and

1335
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:05,809
this is what we're going to be working

1336
00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:09,170
on for over another year and that is the

1337
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:10,700
completely integrated design to complete

1338
00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:12,049
the design of both the rocket the

1339
00:53:16,030 --> 00:53:13,430
spacecraft that

1340
00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:16,040
ground systems the Mission Control all

1341
00:53:21,370 --> 00:53:20,390
that 2222 a critical design level

1342
00:53:25,299 --> 00:53:21,380
meaning that we're ready to start

1343
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:25,309
building and and pretty soon flying so

1344
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:27,050
completing through a critical design

1345
00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:29,839
review is the first goal second thing is

1346
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:31,430
we can do a lot of hardware testing to

1347
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:33,770
reduce risk we believe in testing

1348
00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:36,050
hardware early and often at SpaceX and

1349
00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:37,460
we've we've already done a bunch of this

1350
00:53:41,530 --> 00:53:39,470
so we're going to do even more in the

1351
00:53:43,930 --> 00:53:41,540
near future we're focused during this

1352
00:53:47,319 --> 00:53:43,940
whole period on crew safety we know this

1353
00:53:49,780 --> 00:53:47,329
is very very stress how important that

1354
00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:49,790
is having strapped into a rocket before

1355
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:51,849
I could tell you that I have a personal

1356
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:55,130
emotional reason why I wanted sir I want

1357
00:53:59,950 --> 00:53:57,050
to build a vehicle that is safer than

1358
00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:59,960
anything that's flown before by an order

1359
00:54:03,460 --> 00:54:02,240
of magnitude and finally preparing for

1360
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:03,470
an ounce of certification making sure

1361
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:05,210
that we're building a vehicle that is

1362
00:54:08,589 --> 00:54:06,770
going to meet NASA's needs so those are

1363
00:54:10,329 --> 00:54:08,599
the four areas that we're focused on the

1364
00:54:13,089 --> 00:54:10,339
next slide I think I could tell you a

1365
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:13,099
little bit more about the detail this is

1366
00:54:16,450 --> 00:54:15,290
a whole bunch of different milestones up

1367
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:16,460
there but these are all of our

1368
00:54:20,099 --> 00:54:18,530
milestones in this base period that do

1369
00:54:22,510 --> 00:54:20,109
that accomplish those four objectives

1370
00:54:24,910 --> 00:54:22,520
and we've already completed the first

1371
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:24,920
four and we're moving on the fifth one

1372
00:54:30,970 --> 00:54:28,910
is coming up in March our plan is to get

1373
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:30,980
to the point where we can fly to the ISS

1374
00:54:36,490 --> 00:54:34,010
with a non NASA crew by the end of 2015

1375
00:54:37,870 --> 00:54:36,500
now that is if we successfully execute

1376
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:37,880
all of our base period milestones and

1377
00:54:41,549 --> 00:54:39,770
our optional period milestones on

1378
00:54:47,859 --> 00:54:41,559
schedule and so far we're on schedule

1379
00:54:49,660 --> 00:54:47,869
next slide so in 2012 what we've done so

1380
00:54:52,030 --> 00:54:49,670
far in ccr cap we've completed these

1381
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:52,040
four milestones a technical baseline

1382
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:54,730
review a financial and business review

1383
00:54:59,620 --> 00:54:57,200
system requirements review and then what

1384
00:55:00,940 --> 00:54:59,630
our most recent one just before the

1385
00:55:03,370 --> 00:55:00,950
holidays we completed our preliminary

1386
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:03,380
design review for the ground systems and

1387
00:55:07,930 --> 00:55:06,470
the asset part of the flight regimes so

1388
00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:07,940
you see some pictures in there some of

1389
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,750
those things that went into that

1390
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:10,640
preliminary design review you see a

1391
00:55:15,609 --> 00:55:12,410
picture of the new engines were

1392
00:55:17,170 --> 00:55:15,619
upgrading the Falcon 9 rocket and a big

1393
00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:17,180
part of that upgrade is to be ready to

1394
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:18,950
carry crew one of those things are new

1395
00:55:23,980 --> 00:55:21,530
engines that's a Merlin 1d it finished

1396
00:55:26,380 --> 00:55:23,990
his qualification testing and where

1397
00:55:28,569 --> 00:55:26,390
we're moving ahead with that

1398
00:55:32,019 --> 00:55:28,579
next step is that is a test nine of them

1399
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:32,029
together in a stage to the right the

1400
00:55:34,930 --> 00:55:33,170
picture you see there to the right is

1401
00:55:36,819 --> 00:55:34,940
wind tunnel testing that we did at

1402
00:55:38,289 --> 00:55:36,829
Langley NASA Langley and partnership

1403
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:38,299
with one is reimbursable Space Act

1404
00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:41,990
agreements and we tested a new shape of

1405
00:55:46,329 --> 00:55:43,670
the of the capsule to make sure that our

1406
00:55:48,460 --> 00:55:46,339
modifications will will work well as

1407
00:55:50,109 --> 00:55:48,470
well as a cargo dragon does for coming

1408
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:50,119
back through the atmosphere for entry

1409
00:55:55,539 --> 00:55:52,010
and it helped ultimately for landing

1410
00:55:58,660 --> 00:55:55,549
finally see some conceptual ideas of how

1411
00:56:01,630 --> 00:55:58,670
we might do displays for the crew how we

1412
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:01,640
would overlay data and video for in this

1413
00:56:07,180 --> 00:56:03,890
case for proximity operations and

1414
00:56:09,730 --> 00:56:07,190
docking next slide so what we have

1415
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:09,740
coming up in 2013 we have a lot on our

1416
00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:11,890
plate we're going to be very very busy

1417
00:56:16,569 --> 00:56:14,809
we have a pad abort test review we're

1418
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:16,579
going to go through the test plan in

1419
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:18,890
detail for the pad abort test that we

1420
00:56:22,509 --> 00:56:20,750
are doing at the end of the year we're

1421
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:22,519
going to do a human certification review

1422
00:56:26,259 --> 00:56:24,170
to make sure that we have a plan in

1423
00:56:28,329 --> 00:56:26,269
place that will get us to a certified

1424
00:56:30,490 --> 00:56:28,339
vehicle ready for NASA astronauts to

1425
00:56:32,529 --> 00:56:30,500
take to the space station we're doing an

1426
00:56:33,970 --> 00:56:32,539
on-orbit and entry preliminary design

1427
00:56:36,730 --> 00:56:33,980
review so we did already the ground

1428
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:36,740
systems in a cent next step we have a

1429
00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:38,210
second preliminary design review to

1430
00:56:43,779 --> 00:56:41,390
focus on on orbit and entry that's

1431
00:56:45,849 --> 00:56:43,789
coming up this summer then we move on to

1432
00:56:48,730 --> 00:56:45,859
the in-flight abort test review that's

1433
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:48,740
the next big hardware test and then we

1434
00:56:52,089 --> 00:56:50,210
have a safety review focused on all

1435
00:56:53,650 --> 00:56:52,099
those all those products that will go

1436
00:56:54,999 --> 00:56:53,660
into detail about how we're going to

1437
00:56:57,069 --> 00:56:55,009
accomplish that order of magnitude

1438
00:56:59,289 --> 00:56:57,079
safety improvement over any previous

1439
00:57:01,329 --> 00:56:59,299
vehicle and then a flight review of our

1440
00:57:03,970 --> 00:57:01,339
new upgraded Falcon 9 comes in November

1441
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:03,980
and finally we end the year on a really

1442
00:57:09,940 --> 00:57:06,529
big high note which is by doing a pad

1443
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:09,950
abort test right here behind us at KSC

1444
00:57:14,049 --> 00:57:12,529
where we're going to take there's not a

1445
00:57:17,609 --> 00:57:14,059
demonstration test this is a flight like

1446
00:57:19,930 --> 00:57:17,619
full-scale pad abort test for

1447
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:19,940
certification as well as risk mitigation

1448
00:57:25,269 --> 00:57:22,970
we're going to take a dragon as fight

1449
00:57:28,019 --> 00:57:25,279
like as possible take it from our pad

1450
00:57:31,029 --> 00:57:28,029
over to Cape Canaveral Air Force Station

1451
00:57:33,279 --> 00:57:31,039
and demonstrate our ability to get away

1452
00:57:35,230 --> 00:57:33,289
from the Falcon 9 on the pad from zero

1453
00:57:37,390 --> 00:57:35,240
altitude and zero airspeed if we are

1454
00:57:38,980 --> 00:57:37,400
having a bad day on the pad so that's

1455
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:38,990
what we have come up in the next year I

1456
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:39,970
want to give you a sneak

1457
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:42,880
peek into 2014 if we can show the next

1458
00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:47,230
slide so 2014 we have three milestones

1459
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:50,680
that wrap up CCI cap base period and in

1460
00:57:54,690 --> 00:57:52,450
that period of time we're going to do a

1461
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:54,700
qualification testing of the primary

1462
00:57:59,220 --> 00:57:57,520
structure we're going to stress it and

1463
00:58:00,540 --> 00:57:59,230
bend it and hopefully not break it but

1464
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:00,550
make sure it can take anything that

1465
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:03,849
might that might get dissed at it in

1466
00:58:07,890 --> 00:58:06,010
flight we're going to do the final

1467
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:07,900
critical design review and prove that

1468
00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:09,550
we're ready to start manufacturing and

1469
00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:12,070
finally we're going to end this program

1470
00:58:16,890 --> 00:58:14,680
by doing an in-flight abort test meaning

1471
00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:16,900
that we're going to take a dragon again

1472
00:58:20,609 --> 00:58:18,220
a flight like dragon full Scott

1473
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:20,619
full-size sticking on top of a falcon 9

1474
00:58:24,030 --> 00:58:22,240
launch it out of our launch pad right

1475
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:24,040
here and at the worst possible moment

1476
00:58:28,740 --> 00:58:27,010
we're going to have that dragon light up

1477
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:28,750
it's super Draco's and fly away and

1478
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:30,970
safely splash down into the Atlantic

1479
00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:32,530
demonstrating the capability to deliver

1480
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:35,500
the crew safely should-should the Falcon

1481
00:58:41,849 --> 00:58:39,130
9 be having a bad day so in a nutshell

1482
00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:41,859
that's what we have planned for CCI cap

1483
00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:45,070
again we're very happy with this

1484
00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:47,020
partnership that we have with NASA we

1485
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:49,270
want to see it continue all way so that

1486
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:52,000
in near future we can get Americans back

1487
00:59:01,230 --> 00:58:58,240
into space on American rockets ed thinks

1488
00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:01,240
as you can tell from our partners they

1489
00:59:06,270 --> 00:59:03,430
have been extremely busy and I think the

1490
00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:06,280
partnership between NASA and each of

1491
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,160
these companies clearly shows that we

1492
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:11,680
have a very vibrant space industry in

1493
00:59:15,870 --> 00:59:13,510
the United States and the space industry

1494
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:15,880
wants to meet the goal of getting us

1495
00:59:20,190 --> 00:59:18,010
capability back into low-earth orbit I

1496
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:20,200
have a few charts to talk about the big

1497
00:59:23,490 --> 00:59:21,910
picture from the program standpoint and

1498
00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:23,500
where we're headed we're right now where

1499
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:25,300
we're headed so if I go to my first

1500
00:59:30,030 --> 00:59:27,760
chart this is a chart that kind of shows

1501
00:59:32,820 --> 00:59:30,040
our program lifecycle and you can think

1502
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:32,830
about or what's a lifecycle from from us

1503
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:34,930
program guys we look at a lifecycle from

1504
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:36,730
the time we begin a new thought to the

1505
00:59:40,770 --> 00:59:38,410
time that we are actually executing the

1506
00:59:43,140 --> 00:59:40,780
mission and in this case we really have

1507
00:59:44,910 --> 00:59:43,150
two purposes of the Commercial Crew

1508
00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:44,920
lifecycle one is for a public purpose

1509
00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:47,800
and one is also for a specific massive

1510
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:50,320
purpose to get to ISS you can see that

1511
00:59:53,789 --> 00:59:51,910
in the yellow lie

1512
00:59:56,670 --> 00:59:53,799
cycle all of our partners all four of

1513
00:59:58,559 --> 00:59:56,680
the folks here today I've all been part

1514
01:00:02,670 --> 00:59:58,569
of this public purpose either through CC

1515
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:02,680
dev 1 CC deaf too and now into I cap you

1516
01:00:06,839 --> 01:00:04,569
can see that a couple than three of them

1517
01:00:09,539 --> 01:00:06,849
are now continuing on into I cap and

1518
01:00:11,819 --> 01:00:09,549
then we'll and then some of those will

1519
01:00:14,250 --> 01:00:11,829
then transition into the blue line which

1520
01:00:17,099 --> 01:00:14,260
is our NASA purpose which is

1521
01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:17,109
certification and services so by doing

1522
01:00:22,349 --> 01:00:19,030
this we really are creating a capability

1523
01:00:24,270 --> 01:00:22,359
for the nation to use and and as we

1524
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:24,280
create that capability than NASA will be

1525
01:00:29,789 --> 01:00:27,670
become a customer of that service so

1526
01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:29,799
that we can use this capability to move

1527
01:00:33,660 --> 01:00:31,390
our flight crew and our astronauts

1528
01:00:35,220 --> 01:00:33,670
International Space Station and continue

1529
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:35,230
on with the science of the International

1530
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,410
Space Station well that's a nice

1531
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:39,520
pictorial now how do we actually make it

1532
01:00:44,609 --> 01:00:42,220
work and that's the next chart we showed

1533
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:44,619
this chart back in August of last year

1534
01:00:48,450 --> 01:00:46,240
and what you said here is our

1535
01:00:50,089 --> 01:00:48,460
acquisition strategy overall for the

1536
01:00:53,370 --> 01:00:50,099
program for the Commercial Crew program

1537
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,380
you can see all the partners here today

1538
01:00:58,769 --> 01:00:55,599
talked about the CC dev one and two and

1539
01:01:00,690 --> 01:00:58,779
I cap and that's the top portion we also

1540
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:00,700
talked back in August and I we highlight

1541
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,799
again that we have two phases under the

1542
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:04,480
certification phase on Anna

1543
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:06,010
certification effort for our

1544
01:01:10,829 --> 01:01:08,410
international for an ISS crew

1545
01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:10,839
transportation phase one which I'll talk

1546
01:01:13,710 --> 01:01:12,430
about that in much more detail here in a

1547
01:01:15,690 --> 01:01:13,720
minute is the phase that we're just

1548
01:01:18,089 --> 01:01:15,700
starting and we started in about two

1549
01:01:21,210 --> 01:01:18,099
weeks well then transition to phase two

1550
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:21,220
in the spring late spring of 2014 and

1551
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:22,809
that second phase also talked about

1552
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:24,670
briefly today and how that phase is

1553
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:26,650
really going to take us from all the

1554
01:01:30,809 --> 01:01:28,150
work that has been done through the

1555
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:30,819
development in a partnership with our

1556
01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:33,369
partners today and with any other new

1557
01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:34,900
industry partners I would like to come

1558
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:37,270
join us to compete for the capability to

1559
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,609
go get certified for a NASA mission to

1560
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:41,680
the international space station and that

1561
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:44,079
should be concluded sometime between

1562
01:01:48,809 --> 01:01:47,230
2015 and 2017 from an overall schedule

1563
01:01:51,539 --> 01:01:48,819
standpoint of when we think you can get

1564
01:01:53,309 --> 01:01:51,549
crew and a capability for services and

1565
01:01:56,180 --> 01:01:53,319
then well of course transition in the

1566
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:56,190
services once we have a certified system

1567
01:01:59,609 --> 01:01:58,450
today I want to talk a little bit about

1568
01:02:02,640 --> 01:01:59,619
the next chart which is our

1569
01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:02,650
certification products contract when we

1570
01:02:08,310 --> 01:02:05,470
awarded icap in August we

1571
01:02:10,530 --> 01:02:08,320
quickly turned around and said that that

1572
01:02:12,359 --> 01:02:10,540
we need a contract mechanism by which we

1573
01:02:13,830 --> 01:02:12,369
can talk about requirements our

1574
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:13,840
requirements to get our crew to

1575
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:15,730
international space station our safety

1576
01:02:19,710 --> 01:02:17,410
requirements as well as our performance

1577
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:19,720
requirements and so the first step of

1578
01:02:23,849 --> 01:02:21,430
that was this certification product

1579
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:23,859
contract and is really part of a phase

1580
01:02:29,550 --> 01:02:25,690
acquisition to get to that certified

1581
01:02:31,290 --> 01:02:29,560
system the primary objective of the CPC

1582
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:31,300
is we like to call it awesome to like

1583
01:02:37,859 --> 01:02:35,050
acronyms is to begin the early critical

1584
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:37,869
certification work to meet our set of

1585
01:02:42,750 --> 01:02:40,030
requirements that we have laid out it's

1586
01:02:44,940 --> 01:02:42,760
really maturing key certification

1587
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:44,950
products and phase one that's what we're

1588
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:47,710
talking about in CPC those products get

1589
01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:49,990
matured then it brings industry and NASA

1590
01:02:54,750 --> 01:02:52,750
all together to be ready to move into

1591
01:02:57,060 --> 01:02:54,760
Phase two which is the actual

1592
01:03:00,690 --> 01:02:57,070
verification activity and then eventual

1593
01:03:03,060 --> 01:03:00,700
certification of the system we're very

1594
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:03,070
happy and we did award these back in

1595
01:03:06,650 --> 01:03:05,050
December 10th and I like to congratulate

1596
01:03:09,690 --> 01:03:06,660
the three companies that were awarded

1597
01:03:11,490 --> 01:03:09,700
Boeing Sierra Nevada and SpaceX they

1598
01:03:14,339 --> 01:03:11,500
were all awarded contracts for the

1599
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:14,349
commercial for the certification

1600
01:03:20,310 --> 01:03:17,050
products contract each of these is a

1601
01:03:23,099 --> 01:03:20,320
fixed price contract all for 10 million

1602
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:23,109
dollars or less there's really two sets

1603
01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:24,910
of products that we will look for in

1604
01:03:29,730 --> 01:03:27,790
this fixed price arrangement the first

1605
01:03:31,740 --> 01:03:29,740
set of products is the initial products

1606
01:03:33,690 --> 01:03:31,750
of four different types i'll talk about

1607
01:03:35,370 --> 01:03:33,700
here in a minute and then we'll begin to

1608
01:03:37,410 --> 01:03:35,380
have a number of technical interchanges

1609
01:03:38,910 --> 01:03:37,420
with each of the companies to mature

1610
01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:38,920
louis products so they're ready for the

1611
01:03:44,670 --> 01:03:42,580
final set of of products as we move

1612
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:44,680
forward from an overall cost standpoint

1613
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:46,690
for the taxpayer we're going to pay

1614
01:03:51,810 --> 01:03:49,570
about forty percent of the total costs

1615
01:03:54,359 --> 01:03:51,820
of the contracts in in the initial

1616
01:03:57,150 --> 01:03:54,369
products which would be due here towards

1617
01:03:58,740 --> 01:03:57,160
the late spring of 2013 and then we'll

1618
01:04:02,130 --> 01:03:58,750
pay the rest when the final products are

1619
01:04:04,250 --> 01:04:02,140
due towards the spring of 2014 this way

1620
01:04:06,329 --> 01:04:04,260
we continue to work as a

1621
01:04:09,030 --> 01:04:06,339
performance-based kind of arrangement

1622
01:04:10,770 --> 01:04:09,040
where work is done we look at the work

1623
01:04:13,170 --> 01:04:10,780
we talk with the partners about the work

1624
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:13,180
and then based on competency of that

1625
01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:14,890
work we then go ahead and

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01:04:20,009 --> 01:04:17,260
will help make payment to our to our

1627
01:04:22,019 --> 01:04:20,019
partners and our contractors the next

1628
01:04:24,059 --> 01:04:22,029
page talks a little bit more about the

1629
01:04:26,910 --> 01:04:24,069
details of this certification products

1630
01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:26,920
contract which there are four scope

1631
01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:28,960
products in the end we want to get to

1632
01:04:34,589 --> 01:04:31,990
the end of CPC with a certification plan

1633
01:04:36,450 --> 01:04:34,599
that's what we need in order to get to

1634
01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:36,460
that end state of a certification plan

1635
01:04:41,269 --> 01:04:38,920
that both us and our partners can sign

1636
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:41,279
up to we need to have the other three

1637
01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:44,170
products developed and agree to those

1638
01:04:48,299 --> 01:04:46,329
are alternate standards we look at those

1639
01:04:50,940 --> 01:04:48,309
as nASA has to find a series of

1640
01:04:52,769 --> 01:04:50,950
standards we'd like them to use and all

1641
01:04:54,509 --> 01:04:52,779
of our standards we say we are willing

1642
01:04:56,220 --> 01:04:54,519
to talk about and figure out how you

1643
01:04:57,870 --> 01:04:56,230
would like to meet that intent of those

1644
01:04:59,970 --> 01:04:57,880
standards because there's always more

1645
01:05:01,529 --> 01:04:59,980
than one way to do a job and we have

1646
01:05:03,299 --> 01:05:01,539
noticed as you can see from today's

1647
01:05:05,220 --> 01:05:03,309
briefing that each of these have come

1648
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:05,230
varied from very different approaches

1649
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:07,690
towards trying to create a capability so

1650
01:05:11,089 --> 01:05:09,010
we want to talk about those alternate

1651
01:05:13,319 --> 01:05:11,099
standards with our contractor partners

1652
01:05:15,329 --> 01:05:13,329
we also want to talk about the hazard

1653
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,339
analysis from a design standpoint you

1654
01:05:19,829 --> 01:05:17,680
design from what what can hurt you and

1655
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:19,839
they need to design systems to mitigate

1656
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:21,490
what can hurt you and that's called the

1657
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,160
hazard analysis and has reports and

1658
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:26,640
we'll work through iterations of those

1659
01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:29,380
products as we work from us the initial

1660
01:05:33,509 --> 01:05:31,630
phase to the final phase and finally

1661
01:05:35,849 --> 01:05:33,519
it's our verifications and a validation

1662
01:05:38,609 --> 01:05:35,859
plan those verifications are the actual

1663
01:05:40,049 --> 01:05:38,619
tests you're going to run and on all of

1664
01:05:41,099 --> 01:05:40,059
our partners talk about the testing

1665
01:05:43,170 --> 01:05:41,109
they're going to do in the next couple

1666
01:05:44,759 --> 01:05:43,180
years which someday they may say we

1667
01:05:47,579 --> 01:05:44,769
would like to use those tests as part of

1668
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:47,589
their overall verification effort it is

1669
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:49,450
it will also include additional test

1670
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:52,089
test down to the component tests at the

1671
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:53,710
subsystem level tests at the system

1672
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:56,410
level and test at the complete vehicle

1673
01:06:00,329 --> 01:05:58,240
level and that's what our verification

1674
01:06:02,490 --> 01:06:00,339
plan that we will work with each of the

1675
01:06:03,660 --> 01:06:02,500
contractors with and buy into that and

1676
01:06:06,359 --> 01:06:03,670
all that comes together to meet a

1677
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:06,369
certification plan that's how that's the

1678
01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:09,190
products will do under CPC once we are

1679
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:10,990
comfortable with those and our partner

1680
01:06:14,609 --> 01:06:12,460
contractors are comfortable with that

1681
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:14,619
then we're really ready to go into Phase

1682
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:16,720
two and that's how we a plan to approach

1683
01:06:21,779 --> 01:06:19,690
phase two from our requirements you know

1684
01:06:23,759 --> 01:06:21,789
you also got to look at requirements

1685
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:23,769
vary inch process and we have a number

1686
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:25,450
of requirements see all you can read

1687
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:26,330
them online

1688
01:06:30,610 --> 01:06:29,210
about 300 of them that are our design

1689
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:30,620
requirements there are performance

1690
01:06:34,180 --> 01:06:32,000
requirements as well as our safety

1691
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:34,190
requirements if you were to actually try

1692
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:37,010
to build a vehicle to every word and

1693
01:06:42,190 --> 01:06:39,370
every eye and every T in that

1694
01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:42,200
requirement set it probably would be

1695
01:06:45,420 --> 01:06:43,910
extremely expensive and there probably

1696
01:06:47,770 --> 01:06:45,430
will never be able to get off the ground

1697
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:47,780
because a weight or power or whatever

1698
01:06:50,980 --> 01:06:49,610
the issues might being so what we want

1699
01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:50,990
to do is you want to talk to each of

1700
01:06:54,910 --> 01:06:53,120
these contractor partners about if

1701
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:54,920
there's anything we need to do to our

1702
01:06:59,650 --> 01:06:56,810
requirements and variances tavares

1703
01:07:01,840 --> 01:06:59,660
requirements that look at risk really

1704
01:07:05,410 --> 01:07:01,850
variances are dealing with risk to the

1705
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:05,420
safety side and risk due to the cost

1706
01:07:09,310 --> 01:07:07,850
side and risk due to performance I'd we

1707
01:07:11,410 --> 01:07:09,320
want to look at all three of those

1708
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:11,420
components from a variant standpoint and

1709
01:07:15,310 --> 01:07:13,130
talk to the partners and say do you have

1710
01:07:17,260 --> 01:07:15,320
other ways of meeting our requirements

1711
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:17,270
do you have other ways that say we can

1712
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:19,130
mitigate the risk and therefore the

1713
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:21,290
requirement the idea of the requirement

1714
01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:23,810
is still the same but the way we want to

1715
01:07:26,740 --> 01:07:25,310
meet it the way we want to try to deal

1716
01:07:28,270 --> 01:07:26,750
with that requirement for Marisa Tiant

1717
01:07:31,150 --> 01:07:28,280
point might be different and we call

1718
01:07:33,250 --> 01:07:31,160
those variances and that is really very

1719
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:33,260
important that we encourage industry to

1720
01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:34,400
look at different ways of doing business

1721
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:37,310
as you can see from today's briefing by

1722
01:07:41,710 --> 01:07:39,770
all three partners under I cap and all

1723
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:41,720
four partners we have today that they

1724
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:43,130
are looking at this very differently

1725
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:45,770
than anything that human spaceflight has

1726
01:07:49,540 --> 01:07:47,690
done before and that is good they also

1727
01:07:50,830 --> 01:07:49,550
taken the experiences from human

1728
01:07:52,690 --> 01:07:50,840
spaceflight that NASA brings to the

1729
01:07:55,630 --> 01:07:52,700
table and that their teams bring to the

1730
01:07:57,310 --> 01:07:55,640
table to show that it isn't a new sheet

1731
01:08:00,010 --> 01:07:57,320
of paper it's a sheet of paper that has

1732
01:08:01,690 --> 01:08:00,020
history behind it to see what is good

1733
01:08:03,490 --> 01:08:01,700
and what is bad about our past and try

1734
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:03,500
to improve on that and that's what we

1735
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:05,450
encourage our partners to bring forward

1736
01:08:11,950 --> 01:08:08,890
in these variances as as we move forward

1737
01:08:14,020 --> 01:08:11,960
alright so that's see at CPC and that

1738
01:08:17,079 --> 01:08:14,030
will start again january twenty second

1739
01:08:19,210 --> 01:08:17,089
and goes until the spring of 2014 and

1740
01:08:21,250 --> 01:08:19,220
then we talk about our next phase and

1741
01:08:23,770 --> 01:08:21,260
the next phase is what we call our

1742
01:08:26,230 --> 01:08:23,780
certification phase two it will cover

1743
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:26,240
all aspects of the final development and

1744
01:08:30,849 --> 01:08:27,890
certification of the crew transportation

1745
01:08:33,849 --> 01:08:30,859
system that is to include final design

1746
01:08:36,430 --> 01:08:33,859
final manufacturing capabilities final

1747
01:08:37,690 --> 01:08:36,440
testing final qualification final

1748
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:37,700
production and getting into that

1749
01:08:42,189 --> 01:08:40,130
production and actual operations

1750
01:08:43,959 --> 01:08:42,199
so that's a pretty big deal and we need

1751
01:08:46,539 --> 01:08:43,969
to make sure that we continue to partner

1752
01:08:48,459 --> 01:08:46,549
with our industry with our industry

1753
01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:48,469
partners to move forward so we're ready

1754
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:52,670
for Phase two we intend to not do this

1755
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:55,279
we intend for NASA my team not to do

1756
01:08:58,419 --> 01:08:56,810
this in a vacuum and come up with a plan

1757
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,429
and roll it out and say here's your plan

1758
01:09:03,370 --> 01:09:00,799
go try to meet it we want to engage

1759
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:03,380
industry and how to involve how to

1760
01:09:07,570 --> 01:09:06,319
evolve getting into phase 2 because

1761
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:07,580
phase two is something very different

1762
01:09:11,860 --> 01:09:10,250
than NASA has done before it includes we

1763
01:09:13,809 --> 01:09:11,870
want to look at different ways of doing

1764
01:09:16,570 --> 01:09:13,819
business we want to finalize our plans

1765
01:09:18,189 --> 01:09:16,580
and encourage involvement from industry

1766
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:18,199
so we're going to be putting out a

1767
01:09:23,289 --> 01:09:21,770
request for information or an RFI about

1768
01:09:24,849 --> 01:09:23,299
certain questions that we'd like to get

1769
01:09:27,550 --> 01:09:24,859
some feedback from industry on really

1770
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:27,560
within the next week and we'll be

1771
01:09:31,660 --> 01:09:29,449
looking for some feedback on that so

1772
01:09:34,660 --> 01:09:31,670
that helps us understand how we want to

1773
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:34,670
go into phase 2 phase two will be a far

1774
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:38,000
based contract but that's a big picture

1775
01:09:41,289 --> 01:09:39,920
now how do you go do all the details of

1776
01:09:43,329 --> 01:09:41,299
that is some of the questions you want

1777
01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:43,339
to ask about for example what type of

1778
01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:45,350
contract structure will come one type of

1779
01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:47,839
contract type we want we have some

1780
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:49,279
questions you want to ask industry about

1781
01:09:52,629 --> 01:09:51,409
and see what kind of feedback we get we

1782
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:52,639
want to talk about how do we approach

1783
01:09:57,310 --> 01:09:55,760
ISS missions in the end for the CPC and

1784
01:09:59,470 --> 01:09:57,320
for Phase two it's all about getting to

1785
01:10:01,870 --> 01:09:59,480
ISS and so we need to figure out how we

1786
01:10:04,450 --> 01:10:01,880
incorporate ISS missions into that

1787
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:04,460
overall philosophy and of course we all

1788
01:10:08,260 --> 01:10:06,409
want to talk about FAA licensing because

1789
01:10:10,810 --> 01:10:08,270
we're in a commercial environment the

1790
01:10:12,939 --> 01:10:10,820
idea is is ISS is one destination not

1791
01:10:15,700 --> 01:10:12,949
the only destination if that's the case

1792
01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:15,710
we need to talk about how we bring the

1793
01:10:20,979 --> 01:10:18,380
FAA and regulatory agencies into

1794
01:10:22,570 --> 01:10:20,989
practice with us so that there's an

1795
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:22,580
industry out there that isn't just for

1796
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:24,530
NASA it's an industry that's really for

1797
01:10:27,939 --> 01:10:26,570
the entire planet and if they're

1798
01:10:29,470 --> 01:10:27,949
launched out of United States then we

1799
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:29,480
think the FA has a very important role

1800
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:31,070
in that and so we have some questions

1801
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:33,199
about FAA licensing on how to go do that

1802
01:10:37,899 --> 01:10:35,830
in enough detail to enter into Phase two

1803
01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:37,909
we're going to have a number of Industry

1804
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:39,440
touch points the next one will probably

1805
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:41,510
be after this f RF I will be in March of

1806
01:10:45,729 --> 01:10:44,210
this year exact dates are still to be

1807
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:45,739
determined and then we're going to come

1808
01:10:50,170 --> 01:10:47,810
out with a draft RFP probably in the

1809
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:50,180
early summer the mid summer time frame

1810
01:10:53,170 --> 01:10:51,590
and that's really important to our

1811
01:10:55,330 --> 01:10:53,180
industry partners here and anybody else

1812
01:10:57,070 --> 01:10:55,340
in industry want to participate so they

1813
01:10:58,540 --> 01:10:57,080
can give us feedback on how we think

1814
01:11:01,810 --> 01:10:58,550
we're going to go do this and we'll take

1815
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:01,820
that feedback and see what is best from

1816
01:11:06,490 --> 01:11:04,310
a government incorporation again it's

1817
01:11:08,140 --> 01:11:06,500
our request for proposal and incorporate

1818
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:08,150
that into our final RFP which should be

1819
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:11,210
coming out in early fall of 2013 the

1820
01:11:16,540 --> 01:11:13,130
goal there is to have a contract awarded

1821
01:11:18,460 --> 01:11:16,550
by may of 2014 so you can see that as we

1822
01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:18,470
get through the base period of icap as

1823
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:20,630
we get through CPC we're now ready to

1824
01:11:25,420 --> 01:11:22,970
move into this next phase of phase 2

1825
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:25,430
with a contract award so that's a lot of

1826
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:27,920
details about where how we're trying to

1827
01:11:32,740 --> 01:11:31,010
make the activity happen of course a lot

1828
01:11:34,690 --> 01:11:32,750
of that is based on the fact that there

1829
01:11:37,390 --> 01:11:34,700
has to be an overall national initiative

1830
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:37,400
so this final chart i have is talking

1831
01:11:41,950 --> 01:11:39,530
about how the Commercial Crew program is

1832
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:41,960
really a national involvement I think

1833
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:43,610
all of our partners talked about that I

1834
01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:45,890
like the passion that led to each had

1835
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:47,740
towards trying to create a capability

1836
01:11:52,930 --> 01:11:50,450
not just for NASA but also for the

1837
01:11:54,580 --> 01:11:52,940
nation it's a national initiative it's

1838
01:11:56,620 --> 01:11:54,590
not just here at Kennedy although the

1839
01:11:59,410 --> 01:11:56,630
program headquarters is here at Kennedy

1840
01:12:01,840 --> 01:11:59,420
it's not just a Johnson where the deputy

1841
01:12:03,610 --> 01:12:01,850
program is deputy program manager is at

1842
01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:03,620
and also I have a lot of capability at

1843
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:05,510
Johnson that's helping the program it's

1844
01:12:10,030 --> 01:12:07,370
not just a NASA thing it's really a

1845
01:12:12,610 --> 01:12:10,040
national interest it's a national human

1846
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:12,620
space flight activity for the nation in

1847
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:14,090
fact you can see from this chart that

1848
01:12:18,130 --> 01:12:16,250
there's really 26 states that have

1849
01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:18,140
activity dealing with the Commercial

1850
01:12:24,460 --> 01:12:20,510
Crew program today all of those 26

1851
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:24,470
states or 56 districts 56 electoral

1852
01:12:30,370 --> 01:12:27,530
districts that are part of our activity

1853
01:12:31,870 --> 01:12:30,380
that we're doing today and there's 63

1854
01:12:34,540 --> 01:12:31,880
aerospace companies that are involved

1855
01:12:36,940 --> 01:12:34,550
today and that's really at the prime and

1856
01:12:39,580 --> 01:12:36,950
the sub and going down a little bit down

1857
01:12:41,410 --> 01:12:39,590
the tier of subs and and that kind of

1858
01:12:44,230 --> 01:12:41,420
thing not every sub is listed in these

1859
01:12:45,940 --> 01:12:44,240
63 companies but this shows that is this

1860
01:12:48,730 --> 01:12:45,950
is a national involvement the Commercial

1861
01:12:50,710 --> 01:12:48,740
Crew program is not a single thing it's

1862
01:12:53,290 --> 01:12:50,720
a national interest it's a national

1863
01:12:55,150 --> 01:12:53,300
thing to get America having a capability

1864
01:12:57,130 --> 01:12:55,160
to get back to low-earth orbit that's

1865
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,140
what we're trying to do that's what all

1866
01:13:01,450 --> 01:12:59,600
these companies are trying to do we I

1867
01:13:02,810 --> 01:13:01,460
applaud each of them for their very

1868
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:02,820
unique ways of doing that

1869
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:07,290
my team is extremely energized by the

1870
01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:09,210
activities that happen last year and

1871
01:13:13,069 --> 01:13:10,710
even more of the activities are going to

1872
01:13:15,859 --> 01:13:13,079
happen this year the team is extremely

1873
01:13:17,180 --> 01:13:15,869
we do a lot of travel and but I have

1874
01:13:19,129 --> 01:13:17,190
known here very many complaints about

1875
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,139
the travel we have to do because we're

1876
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:20,880
seeing growth in the American

1877
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:23,130
spaceflight industry so that's what I

1878
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:24,560
like to edit and I'll turn back over to

1879
01:13:29,149 --> 01:13:27,570
all right Thank You Eddie all right we

1880
01:13:30,770 --> 01:13:29,159
have a lot of folks lined up for

1881
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:30,780
questions today so I'd like to please

1882
01:13:35,089 --> 01:13:32,340
ask everyone to limit it to one question

1883
01:13:36,770 --> 01:13:35,099
and a follow-up also we have social

1884
01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:36,780
media followers if you have a question

1885
01:13:42,620 --> 01:13:39,420
you can ask your question on twitter

1886
01:13:44,510 --> 01:13:42,630
with the hashtag ask nasa and we'll

1887
01:13:46,129 --> 01:13:44,520
begin here in florida please wait for

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the microphone state your name and

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affiliation and to whom you're asking

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your question we'll start off with James

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thank you James Dean floor today Phil I

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think budget has consistently been

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stated as the the top program risk in

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its infancy now that you have the icap

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plans and milestones and costs all laid

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out do you have a better handle now and

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what the actual costs are to get you to

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you know an operational flight by 2017

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can you just give us an update on what

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budget you anticipate needing after this

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01:14:24,430 --> 01:14:21,659
year to stay on track or is there still

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a risk of slipping if you don't get a

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01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:26,849
significant bump from from where you're

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at now yeah you know the budget is going

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01:14:34,729 --> 01:14:32,790
to be an extremely challenging topic I

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01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:34,739
think not only for this program but for

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01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:36,780
all NASA programs I I work up at NASA

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01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:38,369
headquarters and just a couple doors

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01:14:41,930 --> 01:14:40,110
down for me as a director of the ISS

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program and a couple more two doors down

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as director of SLS and MPCV and we all

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have the same issue right we're all we

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01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:49,920
all feel like we could use and need more

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01:14:54,169 --> 01:14:52,710
money to go forward but we're in a very

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01:14:56,300 --> 01:14:54,179
constrained environment we're going to

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have to get what we get I think to

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answer your one question about our

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understanding of the cost that gets

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better every every month now that we

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have entered into I cap and CPC we are

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01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:08,130
seeing a better understanding of higher

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fidelity estimates of these crew

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01:15:14,030 --> 01:15:11,639
transportation systems and that will

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feed into our budget we hope to have a

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budget

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come out fairly soon not sure exactly

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when that's going to be the president's

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budget request for fy14 should be coming

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out within the next I don't know when

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but several weeks and of course there's

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a lot of activity at in Washington DC

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about that budget so I can't really say

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about the budget but I can say that we

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are getting smarter every day as all our

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partners about what we really think the

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costs are going to be and that is an

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important factor and for the partners a

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garret identified a couple of flight

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tests coming up in the near term could

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you just again update us on your plans

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for any tests of of that nature or and

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ultimately you know the first crude

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flight test if you know budgets and

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schedules stay on the track my

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01:16:12,260 --> 01:16:10,260
presentation we are expecting to start

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01:16:14,330 --> 01:16:12,270
our appt atmospheric flight tests here

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in the first quarter of 2013 and that

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will be the beginning of a flight test

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program regime that will continue on

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through this year and into next year

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both autonomous as well as piloted yeah

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when you look at our plan you are our

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plan would have first crude flight in

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2016 and when we went and laid out our

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01:16:39,740 --> 01:16:35,970
CC icap plan it was very important to us

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that you you follow the mantra of tests

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like you fly and fly like a test and and

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for us you're the big integrated test

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such as as pad abort we decided to that

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we needed to incorporate those in our

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01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:53,880
qualification series so that it would be

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01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:55,890
flight design hardware a large scale

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:16:57,810
integrated test that's naturally where

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they would fit and so those would be in

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our next phase following CDR so that you

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can ensure that those those larger tests

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would be would be done at the flight

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configuration so those would be done

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early but into the into the optional

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Darryl nail with fox in Orlando I'm

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okay go ahead door how many this

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01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:30,360
question in NASA how many of the

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01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:32,489
companies up here today will be

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01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:34,640
commercially feasible as you see it

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awarding contracts in 2014 I see all the

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01:17:47,780 --> 01:17:45,510
companies here today are commercially

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viable as commercial spaceflight

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companies I no doubt in my mind now who

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will be ready to compete for what we

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need in Phase two I believe that need

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01:18:00,770 --> 01:17:59,100
astok companies from a NASA standpoint

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01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,780
we believe that industry will be ready

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we believe that there'll be more than

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one probably two three maybe maybe

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01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:07,199
others that will be ready to compete for

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Phase two but all all four companies

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here today are capable and are the

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leading edge of what it takes to get

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folks back into low-earth orbit over

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time and follow-up questions the

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01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:25,679
partners how does rush Russians flying

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01:18:31,450 --> 01:18:27,840
american astronauts motivate your

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company or provide any type of

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motivation to what you're doing I think

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SpaceX answer did not specifically about

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the Russians the lack of a u.s.

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capability is something obviously that

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we're not happy about I fluid I had

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Russian partners with me up on the space

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station and I really the partnership is

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:52,710
very strong on the ISS side but I think

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01:18:56,750 --> 01:18:54,810
to be a true partner in the space

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01:18:57,860 --> 01:18:56,760
station to be an equal partner we need

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01:18:59,689 --> 01:18:57,870
to come to the table with our own

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01:19:01,520 --> 01:18:59,699
ability to get there and we don't we

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01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:01,530
don't have that right now and in fact

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we're paying a lot of money a lot of

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taxpayer money to the Russians to to do

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that I think it's 63 million dollars a

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seat is what we're paying right now to

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fly us astronauts up to the space

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station on the Soyuz when we could be

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01:19:19,370 --> 01:19:15,330
spending that money here in the US yeah

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that that motivates us I think from our

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perspective that was the original

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motivation for us getting into this was

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that our belief was that we need not

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01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:29,910
only need a US Space Flight Program but

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01:19:33,190 --> 01:19:30,770
from our

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01:19:35,170 --> 01:19:33,200
perspective that the idea of creating

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01:19:37,300 --> 01:19:35,180
American jobs in American industry and

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01:19:38,860 --> 01:19:37,310
moving forward not just the hardware and

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01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:38,870
the people but the future of our

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01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:41,120
children who are looking towards what

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01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:42,560
they want to do with their future and

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01:19:47,380 --> 01:19:45,110
and how they want to educate we believe

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01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:47,390
that that's a strong motivation for what

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01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:50,330
we wanted to accomplish our target was

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01:19:54,250 --> 01:19:52,490
never other NASA programs or other

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01:19:56,380 --> 01:19:54,260
programs in the United States our target

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01:19:58,240 --> 01:19:56,390
was to repatriate that industry back

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here to the United States and that's

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01:20:03,790 --> 01:20:02,090
what we're doing yeah I did reiterate

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01:20:05,770 --> 01:20:03,800
you know I think it's it's really

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01:20:07,690 --> 01:20:05,780
emotionally and also strategically

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01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:07,700
important that this country is a

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01:20:14,380 --> 01:20:10,190
spacefaring nation and and we're excited

2038
01:20:16,150 --> 01:20:14,390
to get back to that point i'll just add

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01:20:18,700 --> 01:20:16,160
I think I assess is a great example of

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01:20:20,860 --> 01:20:18,710
international cooperation so working

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01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:20,870
with countries all over the world is a

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01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:22,490
positive vote but if we want to explore

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01:20:26,590 --> 01:20:24,530
the frontier we have to have a way to

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01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:26,600
get there and we've gotta drive our own

2045
01:20:31,780 --> 01:20:29,120
vehicle so to speak so having that

2046
01:20:32,770 --> 01:20:31,790
capability for America and for several

2047
01:20:36,940 --> 01:20:32,780
commercial companies that are real

2048
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:36,950
positive so all right we're going to go

2049
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:38,810
to the Johnson Space Center phone bridge

2050
01:20:48,020 --> 01:20:41,450
now for questions and begin with Irene

2051
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:51,260
yeah some can hear me right yeah we hear

2052
01:20:56,210 --> 01:20:53,610
you find Irene go ahead thanks very much

2053
01:20:59,480 --> 01:20:56,220
I have three quick questions the first

2054
01:21:01,730 --> 01:20:59,490
four at mango do you anticipate multiple

2055
01:21:04,970 --> 01:21:01,740
awards for the phase two of the program

2056
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:04,980
with flight tests and for Garrett if you

2057
01:21:09,710 --> 01:21:06,510
could give us any update on the root

2058
01:21:12,770 --> 01:21:09,720
cause of the Falcon 9 engine out and for

2059
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:12,780
mr. Myerson do you see any future on

2060
01:21:19,070 --> 01:21:14,970
road back to NASA funding for your

2061
01:21:22,130 --> 01:21:19,080
company's efforts thank you see I think

2062
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:22,140
I was first in their competition is key

2063
01:21:27,650 --> 01:21:25,770
for anything that we do in the United

2064
01:21:29,870 --> 01:21:27,660
States that's how you get the best price

2065
01:21:32,450 --> 01:21:29,880
at I to get the most innovation so to

2066
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:32,460
answer your question I very much want

2067
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:34,890
more than one company involved in Phase

2068
01:21:41,330 --> 01:21:37,650
two because I think it's a competition

2069
01:21:43,550 --> 01:21:41,340
and that innovation that helps drive all

2070
01:21:48,250 --> 01:21:43,560
of industry in the right direction and

2071
01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:51,200
because the product was Part B the

2072
01:21:55,730 --> 01:21:53,280
engine thing okay so we did have an

2073
01:21:57,410 --> 01:21:55,740
engine anomaly on the last Falcon 9

2074
01:22:01,100 --> 01:21:57,420
flight we had to shut down one of the

2075
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:01,110
nine engines in the first stage and is

2076
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:03,840
it right after the flight we convened a

2077
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:05,730
an investigation group to look at this

2078
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:08,010
in flight anomaly and that group

2079
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:09,360
consistent not only with SpaceX

2080
01:22:14,780 --> 01:22:12,090
engineers but also NASA engineers it was

2081
01:22:16,850 --> 01:22:14,790
a NASA mission and so we had NASA

2082
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:16,860
participation on the investigation team

2083
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:18,480
that team has worked really really hard

2084
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:21,330
at at looking at all the day we had tons

2085
01:22:27,620 --> 01:22:24,000
of data all the sensors kept working

2086
01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:27,630
after the the the anomaly occurred so we

2087
01:22:32,180 --> 01:22:29,910
had a real plethora of data to sort

2088
01:22:35,420 --> 01:22:32,190
through and NASA helped us out with that

2089
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:35,430
and we've gotten to root cause and we

2090
01:22:40,220 --> 01:22:37,710
briefed that just before the holidays to

2091
01:22:42,500 --> 01:22:40,230
our customer which is mr. suffer Dini

2092
01:22:46,190 --> 01:22:42,510
the ISS program manager and and to build

2093
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:46,200
Gerstenmaier at the head of human space

2094
01:22:51,530 --> 01:22:49,800
flight at NASA and that were right now

2095
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:51,540
we're just making sure that they're

2096
01:22:55,850 --> 01:22:53,310
happy that all of our i's are dotted and

2097
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:55,860
t's across but we do intend to make that

2098
01:23:00,850 --> 01:22:57,930
information more widely disseminated in

2099
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:00,860
very very soon so I'm sorry I'm

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01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:02,330
leaving it with a bit of a cliffhanger

2101
01:23:07,270 --> 01:23:04,280
but I promise you were going to get you

2102
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:07,280
more information on that soon and the

2103
01:23:10,330 --> 01:23:08,449
third question was whether there's a

2104
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:10,340
future on-ramp for for NASA funding in

2105
01:23:14,620 --> 01:23:11,570
the future for a company like Blue

2106
01:23:17,260 --> 01:23:14,630
Origin I believe there is a I think

2107
01:23:18,850 --> 01:23:17,270
during cc2 and CC type 1 we we proved

2108
01:23:20,020 --> 01:23:18,860
that we're a very innovative company

2109
01:23:21,879 --> 01:23:20,030
that can provide a lot of value to the

2110
01:23:24,340 --> 01:23:21,889
government I think ed and Phil have seen

2111
01:23:26,290 --> 01:23:24,350
that firsthand and and and the

2112
01:23:27,700 --> 01:23:26,300
Commercial Crew team whether it's with

2113
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,710
commercial crew or other programs within

2114
01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:29,679
NASA we always are looking for

2115
01:23:32,770 --> 01:23:31,369
activities where we can work with the

2116
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:32,780
government and help us to accelerate

2117
01:23:36,910 --> 01:23:34,250
what we're trying to do commercially and

2118
01:23:40,990 --> 01:23:36,920
will continue to do that so I'm

2119
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:41,000
optimistic ok back to the phone bridge

2120
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:43,010
and we have questions I believe from

2121
01:23:52,209 --> 01:23:47,810
alan Boyle from NBC Allen hi can you

2122
01:23:54,189 --> 01:23:52,219
hear me we hear you ok great I was

2123
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:54,199
hoping to get more details from SpaceX

2124
01:23:59,919 --> 01:23:57,010
about the and garrett about the plans to

2125
01:24:03,550 --> 01:23:59,929
fly i think you said an on nasa crew by

2126
01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:03,560
the end of 2015 could you lay out what

2127
01:24:09,250 --> 01:24:05,750
that plan would entail are these people

2128
01:24:10,570 --> 01:24:09,260
who would be buying flights or if you

2129
01:24:13,870 --> 01:24:10,580
could provide a little more detail I

2130
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:13,880
appreciate it sure I'd be happy to that

2131
01:24:18,250 --> 01:24:16,610
that is part of our optional so CCI cap

2132
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:18,260
has a base period but we were also asked

2133
01:24:22,689 --> 01:24:20,239
to produce a bunch of optional

2134
01:24:25,540 --> 01:24:22,699
milestones so all of us all the partners

2135
01:24:27,939 --> 01:24:25,550
up here went ahead and submitted a

2136
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:27,949
proposal that was you know assigned into

2137
01:24:34,359 --> 01:24:31,040
a space act agreement that contained not

2138
01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:34,369
only up to me 2014 but what we would do

2139
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:35,840
beyond that getting all the way to the

2140
01:24:41,410 --> 01:24:38,090
point of finding people to the space

2141
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:41,420
station and so we laid out a plan with

2142
01:24:44,770 --> 01:24:43,250
those milestones that gets us to flying

2143
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:44,780
the first test flight in the middle of

2144
01:24:50,410 --> 01:24:48,080
2015 and flying to the space station at

2145
01:24:53,169 --> 01:24:50,420
the end of 2015 that would be done with

2146
01:24:54,970 --> 01:24:53,179
a test pilot crew we were told that

2147
01:24:56,260 --> 01:24:54,980
because this would be part of the

2148
01:24:58,510 --> 01:24:56,270
development and prior to final

2149
01:25:01,689 --> 01:24:58,520
certification that we were not allowed

2150
01:25:04,689 --> 01:25:01,699
to legally to use NASA astronauts to be

2151
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:04,699
part of that test pilot crew so SpaceX

2152
01:25:08,530 --> 01:25:06,560
we're gonna have to have company test

2153
01:25:10,589 --> 01:25:08,540
pilots that would fly those missions but

2154
01:25:12,669 --> 01:25:10,599
be a minimum crew for these test flights

2155
01:25:14,049 --> 01:25:12,679
it would not be we're not selling

2156
01:25:15,909 --> 01:25:14,059
tickets

2157
01:25:19,329 --> 01:25:15,919
don't don't call that our toll-free

2158
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:19,339
number it's those are going to be test

2159
01:25:24,219 --> 01:25:21,289
flights as part of the the final

2160
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:24,229
development and test and certification

2161
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:33,530
process calendar you have Apollo Allen

2162
01:25:38,649 --> 01:25:36,169
did you have a follow-up no I didn't go

2163
01:25:42,599 --> 01:25:38,659
ahead thank you Frank mooring from

2164
01:25:45,790 --> 01:25:42,609
aviation week thank you I have a

2165
01:25:52,259 --> 01:25:45,800
two-part question first part for the for

2166
01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:52,269
the NASA guys if you give me a son of a

2167
01:26:00,189 --> 01:25:55,129
sort of total figure for the percentage

2168
01:26:02,079 --> 01:26:00,199
of support that nASA has given to the

2169
01:26:05,379 --> 01:26:02,089
development of these three vehicles I'll

2170
01:26:07,689 --> 01:26:05,389
say versus the amount of private funds

2171
01:26:09,399 --> 01:26:07,699
that have gone in there and then are for

2172
01:26:13,569 --> 01:26:09,409
the for the company guys if you could

2173
01:26:14,859 --> 01:26:13,579
say whether given the tight budget

2174
01:26:18,369 --> 01:26:14,869
environment that we're seeing here in

2175
01:26:19,959 --> 01:26:18,379
Washington whether or how much your

2176
01:26:24,849 --> 01:26:19,969
companies would be able to take up any

2177
01:26:26,949 --> 01:26:24,859
slack in case on the roughly 850 million

2178
01:26:31,239 --> 01:26:26,959
a year isn't forthcoming from Congress

2179
01:26:33,219 --> 01:26:31,249
thank you yeah Frank generally that is a

2180
01:26:35,109 --> 01:26:33,229
proprietary information it's fairly

2181
01:26:37,419 --> 01:26:35,119
sensitive how much the companies are

2182
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:37,429
putting in so we don't we don't

2183
01:26:42,459 --> 01:26:39,530
publicize the percentage that the

2184
01:26:43,989 --> 01:26:42,469
partners have contributed we haven't in

2185
01:26:47,829 --> 01:26:43,999
the past and we're going to continue to

2186
01:26:50,259 --> 01:26:47,839
maintain that policy going forward and I

2187
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:50,269
but i would add not from a percentage

2188
01:26:54,669 --> 01:26:52,489
standpoint but every dollar that a

2189
01:26:56,649 --> 01:26:54,679
company puts on the table in this

2190
01:26:59,129 --> 01:26:56,659
partnership is one less dollar that the

2191
01:27:01,540 --> 01:26:59,139
taxpayers need to put on the table so

2192
01:27:03,099 --> 01:27:01,550
you know i'm not going to jump up and

2193
01:27:04,929 --> 01:27:03,109
down about percentages as much as i

2194
01:27:06,549 --> 01:27:04,939
would say the fact that it's a

2195
01:27:09,189 --> 01:27:06,559
partnership and we both bring money to

2196
01:27:10,899 --> 01:27:09,199
the table allows the taxpayer to get

2197
01:27:12,549 --> 01:27:10,909
more for their dollar and allows the

2198
01:27:13,899 --> 01:27:12,559
company to get more for their dollar and

2199
01:27:16,540 --> 01:27:13,909
that's what the partnerships all about

2200
01:27:18,879 --> 01:27:16,550
yeah that really does provide what we've

2201
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:18,889
called skin in the game and it is a key

2202
01:27:23,349 --> 01:27:20,510
aspect of the partnership again the

2203
01:27:26,259 --> 01:27:23,359
percentage is is interesting but it's

2204
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:26,269
not it's more of what the the money

2205
01:27:29,470 --> 01:27:27,890
represents it represents

2206
01:27:31,690 --> 01:27:29,480
a commitment on the part of the

2207
01:27:34,330 --> 01:27:31,700
companies to bring forward some of their

2208
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:34,340
own financial resources for the

2209
01:27:37,860 --> 01:27:35,810
development of these vehicles and that

2210
01:27:40,060 --> 01:27:37,870
is critical because we'd only anticipate

2211
01:27:41,860 --> 01:27:40,070
maintaining ownership of these vehicles

2212
01:27:42,970 --> 01:27:41,870
the companies are going to maintain the

2213
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:42,980
intellectual property they're going to

2214
01:27:46,030 --> 01:27:44,570
own and operate these systems and we

2215
01:27:48,340 --> 01:27:46,040
think it's appropriate in that kind of

2216
01:27:50,830 --> 01:27:48,350
situation for them to bring money to the

2217
01:27:52,330 --> 01:27:50,840
table which all of them are doing in

2218
01:27:58,030 --> 01:27:52,340
pretty substantial fashion even though

2219
01:27:59,140 --> 01:27:58,040
we don't quote percentages and let's see

2220
01:28:02,110 --> 01:27:59,150
yeah you know the second part of your

2221
01:28:05,770 --> 01:28:02,120
question Frank I think asked about

2222
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:05,780
whether we companies would would be

2223
01:28:10,540 --> 01:28:07,970
willing to commit more if if the NASA

2224
01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:10,550
funding was was lower than the 850

2225
01:28:15,820 --> 01:28:13,490
million dollar a requester plan you know

2226
01:28:18,010 --> 01:28:15,830
I'd say you know when we look at our

2227
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:18,020
plan I think we've put together a robust

2228
01:28:24,940 --> 01:28:23,210
but affordable and aggressive and and

2229
01:28:27,130 --> 01:28:24,950
whether the company really could

2230
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:27,140
contribute more I think you you have to

2231
01:28:32,170 --> 01:28:29,930
wait and look at the at the true market

2232
01:28:35,260 --> 01:28:32,180
assessment at that time and see how how

2233
01:28:38,890 --> 01:28:35,270
much the market has matured and then and

2234
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:38,900
then look at the ability of your company

2235
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:41,810
to invest more and whether you could you

2236
01:28:44,740 --> 01:28:43,280
could get a return so I think you just

2237
01:28:48,730 --> 01:28:44,750
really have to wait and look at the

2238
01:28:50,260 --> 01:28:48,740
market emerging at that point I think

2239
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:50,270
our from our perspective we are

2240
01:28:53,530 --> 01:28:51,770
contributing significantly to the

2241
01:28:55,390 --> 01:28:53,540
program and one of the things that a

2242
01:28:57,310 --> 01:28:55,400
reduced budget would do is affect

2243
01:29:00,040 --> 01:28:57,320
schedule probably for all of us and

2244
01:29:01,690 --> 01:29:00,050
schedule is is highly important here

2245
01:29:04,270 --> 01:29:01,700
because we are targeting to get the most

2246
01:29:06,430 --> 01:29:04,280
utilization out of the ISS as possible I

2247
01:29:08,140 --> 01:29:06,440
think that the downside of this would be

2248
01:29:10,330 --> 01:29:08,150
that while the program might maintain

2249
01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:10,340
itself and we can continue to do the

2250
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:11,510
work that we're doing it might take

2251
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:13,370
longer to get there and that's going to

2252
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:16,130
have an effect on on the really valuable

2253
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:19,970
work that's being done on the station so

2254
01:29:24,820 --> 01:29:22,250
just to follow up I guess this is kind

2255
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:24,830
of the same thing to try to speculate

2256
01:29:30,130 --> 01:29:26,510
about what would happen should funding

2257
01:29:33,010 --> 01:29:30,140
be less or you know different things

2258
01:29:35,020 --> 01:29:33,020
occur with the federal budget you know

2259
01:29:37,450 --> 01:29:35,030
life is vexing enough without

2260
01:29:39,700 --> 01:29:37,460
entertaining hypotheticals so I don't

2261
01:29:41,650 --> 01:29:39,710
want to go out on a limb and try to

2262
01:29:43,180 --> 01:29:41,660
cover all the possible permutations of

2263
01:29:45,490 --> 01:29:43,190
might happen but I can tell you that

2264
01:29:47,470 --> 01:29:45,500
SpaceX weird like I said it human

2265
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:47,480
spaceflight is our reason for being we

2266
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:48,890
are in this for the long haul that will

2267
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:51,650
be impacts to cost and schedule it

2268
01:29:55,780 --> 01:29:54,290
should should funding dry up but you

2269
01:29:59,770 --> 01:29:55,790
know what we're we're going to get there

2270
01:30:05,470 --> 01:29:59,780
eventually okay next up is Dan Leone

2271
01:30:07,930 --> 01:30:05,480
from space news I a question for a slew

2272
01:30:10,660 --> 01:30:07,940
origin ray with Blue Origin be

2273
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:10,670
interested in trying to get a speech he

2274
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:13,370
faced to contract because those I've

2275
01:30:19,020 --> 01:30:16,490
been very clearly those are full and

2276
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:19,030
open competition and anybody who has a

2277
01:30:24,100 --> 01:30:21,530
transportation system that meets the

2278
01:30:25,900 --> 01:30:24,110
requirements is welcome to apply and of

2279
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:25,910
those who haven't gotten one already our

2280
01:30:30,670 --> 01:30:28,610
stuff has been a few origin probably the

2281
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:30,680
furthest along is that work that the

2282
01:30:37,630 --> 01:30:32,690
company is interested in in or would you

2283
01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:37,640
give that a pass I can't really say

2284
01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:39,920
until I see see the draft RFP and that

2285
01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:42,560
hasn't come out yet so what I know about

2286
01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:45,950
is what I what I've seen today so it's a

2287
01:30:56,140 --> 01:30:50,870
little too early to say dan and you

2288
01:30:58,210 --> 01:30:56,150
follow up down okay let's move on to

2289
01:31:06,610 --> 01:30:58,220
mark Matthews from the Orlando Sentinel

2290
01:31:08,530 --> 01:31:06,620
mark yes we hear you mark all right this

2291
01:31:10,420 --> 01:31:08,540
questions for John similar to one that

2292
01:31:14,440 --> 01:31:10,430
was posed to Garrett a little bit

2293
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:14,450
earlier today talking about that 2016

2294
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:18,170
test flight would this also be a non

2295
01:31:23,620 --> 01:31:20,810
NASA crew would it be a NASA crew what

2296
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:23,630
type of crew size are we looking at

2297
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:25,370
where would it go I get some more

2298
01:31:31,090 --> 01:31:27,410
details about what you guys are planning

2299
01:31:33,970 --> 01:31:31,100
their thanks you're part of the

2300
01:31:35,650 --> 01:31:33,980
requirements of cci cap was was to

2301
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:35,660
culminate with a crew flight test that

2302
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:38,450
had non nasa crew so like garrett we

2303
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:41,210
have a crude flight test planned ours is

2304
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:45,110
in 2016 with boeing crew there would be

2305
01:31:59,620 --> 01:31:53,920
okay next on the line is tarick Malik

2306
01:32:03,280 --> 01:31:59,630
from space com tart thank you I also had

2307
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:03,290
a crew related question for these these

2308
01:32:08,860 --> 01:32:05,810
new space cats I was I'm just curious if

2309
01:32:13,570 --> 01:32:08,870
if each of the members of the panel

2310
01:32:16,630 --> 01:32:13,580
could give us a quick glimpse into your

2311
01:32:18,939 --> 01:32:16,640
test pilot selection process have maybe

2312
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:18,949
you have test pilots on staff Garrett I

2313
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:20,570
would I would imagine you'd be on that

2314
01:32:25,870 --> 01:32:24,170
list for SpaceX you know how how are you

2315
01:32:27,970 --> 01:32:25,880
training and merging that with the

2316
01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:27,980
experiences you get from the astronauts

2317
01:32:33,580 --> 01:32:31,360
that you work with as well thank you

2318
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:33,590
well well I'll start I mean we have two

2319
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:35,449
former NASA astronauts on staff and they

2320
01:32:39,970 --> 01:32:36,770
helped us in a lot of different areas

2321
01:32:42,189 --> 01:32:39,980
bring a very unique perspective but i

2322
01:32:44,050 --> 01:32:42,199
think the the incremental development

2323
01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:44,060
starting with suborbital allows you to

2324
01:32:50,020 --> 01:32:47,030
really approach this in a different way

2325
01:32:53,890 --> 01:32:50,030
in terms of training your flight crew

2326
01:32:55,630 --> 01:32:53,900
and in a a space space like environment

2327
01:32:58,900 --> 01:32:55,640
but not not a fully orbital environment

2328
01:33:01,000 --> 01:32:58,910
and not unlike you know what NASA does

2329
01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:01,010
with high-performance aircraft so this

2330
01:33:05,530 --> 01:33:03,920
is a an approach will take to our

2331
01:33:08,260 --> 01:33:05,540
development and preparation for orbital

2332
01:33:10,540 --> 01:33:08,270
flight sure when one of our key

2333
01:33:12,610 --> 01:33:10,550
acquisitions was was Chris Ferguson who

2334
01:33:15,220 --> 01:33:12,620
is the less space shuttle commander so

2335
01:33:18,010 --> 01:33:15,230
he is he is on our team and responsible

2336
01:33:20,020 --> 01:33:18,020
for crew and mission operations and he

2337
01:33:21,700 --> 01:33:20,030
is defining you know not only the crew

2338
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:21,710
requirements but also the selection

2339
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:25,250
process from our perspective we are

2340
01:33:29,620 --> 01:33:27,440
flight program is being run by Steve

2341
01:33:31,330 --> 01:33:29,630
Lindsey steve is a five-time shuttle

2342
01:33:33,340 --> 01:33:31,340
pilot and former chief of the astronaut

2343
01:33:35,530 --> 01:33:33,350
office and because our vehicle is a

2344
01:33:38,290 --> 01:33:35,540
lifting body piloted vehicle that has

2345
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:38,300
very direct similarities to the shuttle

2346
01:33:42,010 --> 01:33:40,250
there is a significant pool of people

2347
01:33:46,780 --> 01:33:42,020
who have experience in that regard that

2348
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:46,790
we can draw on it SpaceX we're just

2349
01:33:50,350 --> 01:33:49,010
starting internal discussions about how

2350
01:33:52,170 --> 01:33:50,360
we're going to select crews for those

2351
01:33:54,459 --> 01:33:52,180
first couple flights I don't have a

2352
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:54,469
definite answer for you but I could tell

2353
01:34:00,560 --> 01:33:56,570
you that since you made it personal i

2354
01:34:01,970 --> 01:34:00,570
did not come to SpaceX specifically

2355
01:34:03,589 --> 01:34:01,980
with the number one party of going back

2356
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:03,599
into space if that was my number one

2357
01:34:07,580 --> 01:34:05,250
goal I would have stayed at NASA in the

2358
01:34:08,930 --> 01:34:07,590
astronaut office and had a had

2359
01:34:11,810 --> 01:34:08,940
opportunity fly again to the space

2360
01:34:14,930 --> 01:34:11,820
station so what's important to me is not

2361
01:34:16,399 --> 01:34:14,940
that I get to be the guy that flies on

2362
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:16,409
this vehicle what's important to me is

2363
01:34:21,319 --> 01:34:18,690
that I can look myself in a mirror look

2364
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:21,329
at my wife and my and my son and say to

2365
01:34:26,689 --> 01:34:25,050
them that the risk is acceptable for me

2366
01:34:28,910 --> 01:34:26,699
to fly so that that is not important

2367
01:34:31,129 --> 01:34:28,920
that I'm that I go but I have to be

2368
01:34:32,660 --> 01:34:31,139
willing to go because I'm not strapping

2369
01:34:36,979 --> 01:34:32,670
somebody else into it if I'm not willing

2370
01:34:39,500 --> 01:34:36,989
to strap into it myself I think everyone

2371
01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:39,510
here I know the people that come to work

2372
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:41,520
at commercial space companies I I think

2373
01:34:45,290 --> 01:34:43,170
there's probably no shortage of people

2374
01:34:46,910 --> 01:34:45,300
that will want to sign up and fly on on

2375
01:34:51,319 --> 01:34:46,920
any of our vehicles in the in those

2376
01:34:54,709 --> 01:34:51,329
early flights so so okay next on line

2377
01:35:03,310 --> 01:34:54,719
and I apologize if I get your name wrong

2378
01:35:12,109 --> 01:35:06,500
sounds like somebody is not muted on the

2379
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:12,119
phone bridge Veronique are you there ok

2380
01:35:22,700 --> 01:35:14,489
let's move on to you ed Roseburg from

2381
01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:26,310
however I go what is it this time okay

2382
01:35:30,180 --> 01:35:28,480
I'm sorry who was that this is Veronique

2383
01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:30,190
and I have no questions at this time

2384
01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:32,800
okay thank you very nice how about Ed

2385
01:35:37,740 --> 01:35:35,520
Roz Roz Berg from flight international

2386
01:35:39,540 --> 01:35:37,750
there's no it'd but there is a Zach I

2387
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:39,550
have no questions at the time oh okay

2388
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:45,250
Zach welcome go ahead no no questions

2389
01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:48,370
okay Michael Bell fari from Popular

2390
01:36:03,300 --> 01:35:59,199
Mechanics how about Ken Kramer thank you

2391
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:03,310
yes here up to everyone in getting

2392
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:05,170
American astronaut since back in space

2393
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:08,290
as soon as possible I have two quick

2394
01:36:14,010 --> 01:36:11,770
questions for mark and for Garrett

2395
01:36:16,050 --> 01:36:14,020
Garrett please can you tell us them you

2396
01:36:17,550 --> 01:36:16,060
talk a little bit about the resolving

2397
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:17,560
the engine problem hopefully are you

2398
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:20,770
aiming for a march first flight of the

2399
01:36:26,729 --> 01:36:23,290
next door mission or what is the target

2400
01:36:29,060 --> 01:36:26,739
and 44 marks around load talk a little

2401
01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:29,070
bit more about that flight test article

2402
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:33,070
that would do you tend to launch that on

2403
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:35,290
an adolescent how close would it be to

2404
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:39,850
the actual vehicle thank you so yes I'll

2405
01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:42,250
go ahead first and say as far as our

2406
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:44,260
next launch of the cargo dragging to the

2407
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:45,850
space station that yes it's on on

2408
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:48,850
schedule for an early early March lunch

2409
01:36:53,220 --> 01:36:51,130
here out of Cape Canaveral and we don't

2410
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:53,230
see right now any issues that would do

2411
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:57,250
it hold that up thanks for the question

2412
01:37:01,979 --> 01:36:59,199
our flight test vehicle is a full size

2413
01:37:04,410 --> 01:37:01,989
vehicle the outer mold line in the

2414
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:04,420
perimeter of the vehicle is exactly what

2415
01:37:08,189 --> 01:37:06,250
we would be sending to orbit it's not

2416
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:08,199
outfitted for orbital flight it is at

2417
01:37:13,229 --> 01:37:10,660
outfitted for atmospheric flight tests

2418
01:37:15,570 --> 01:37:13,239
and the best way to provide analogy it's

2419
01:37:16,919 --> 01:37:15,580
very similar to what NASA did in the

2420
01:37:19,050 --> 01:37:16,929
shuttle program with that with the

2421
01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:19,060
enterprise creating a vehicle that would

2422
01:37:24,990 --> 01:37:21,280
allow it to do significant flight tests

2423
01:37:34,939 --> 01:37:25,000
that whose design then would filter into

2424
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:39,439
can anything else asking a question if

2425
01:37:46,219 --> 01:37:41,489
there is time um how close are you

2426
01:37:49,489 --> 01:37:46,229
actually to confirm go why why on earth

2427
01:37:54,049 --> 01:37:49,499
astronauts um let alone on these test

2428
01:37:55,489 --> 01:37:54,059
flights thanks she was the first

2429
01:37:57,799 --> 01:37:55,499
question about when we're gonna cut

2430
01:37:59,629 --> 01:37:57,809
metal who I think I think that was that

2431
01:38:01,580 --> 01:37:59,639
was for Boeing first question we were

2432
01:38:04,819 --> 01:38:01,590
cut metal I think our our first piece of

2433
01:38:08,419 --> 01:38:04,829
flight design hardware will be delivered

2434
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:08,429
to to KSC and the old opf three within

2435
01:38:17,810 --> 01:38:13,760
five months see your other question was

2436
01:38:21,770 --> 01:38:17,820
about NASA crew and so at this point

2437
01:38:24,169 --> 01:38:21,780
what I'll say is under I cap if you

2438
01:38:26,899 --> 01:38:24,179
remember a chart I had I had the two

2439
01:38:30,199 --> 01:38:26,909
circles one was public purpose one was a

2440
01:38:31,879 --> 01:38:30,209
NASA mission purpose under I cap that is

2441
01:38:34,489 --> 01:38:31,889
really the transition that is really

2442
01:38:36,529 --> 01:38:34,499
mostly a public purpose and because we

2443
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:36,539
want our industry partners to develop a

2444
01:38:41,419 --> 01:38:38,570
capability that they can use to go to

2445
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:41,429
destinations in low-earth orbit we would

2446
01:38:45,739 --> 01:38:43,650
like them to get to a point where

2447
01:38:49,370 --> 01:38:45,749
they're ready to put their crew on their

2448
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:49,380
vehicle at their risk at their risk and

2449
01:38:55,489 --> 01:38:52,010
so it changes the dynamic little bit

2450
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:55,499
when normally under a contract the

2451
01:38:59,449 --> 01:38:57,690
contract contractor comes forward and

2452
01:39:01,399 --> 01:38:59,459
says he's ready to go fly but it's a

2453
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:01,409
NASA individual that's going to sit on a

2454
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:04,050
rocket so it becomes a NASA risk what we

2455
01:39:06,859 --> 01:39:05,760
did is we flipped it around under I cap

2456
01:39:08,540 --> 01:39:06,869
that's not what we're going to do

2457
01:39:10,609 --> 01:39:08,550
long-term under Phase two but we flip

2458
01:39:12,529 --> 01:39:10,619
that around under I cap and said we want

2459
01:39:15,620 --> 01:39:12,539
to know when you're ready to fly your

2460
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:15,630
crew and put your people at risk and

2461
01:39:20,270 --> 01:39:17,280
that then becomes something that we were

2462
01:39:22,549 --> 01:39:20,280
able to evaluate under i cap so I would

2463
01:39:25,279 --> 01:39:22,559
say also i think garrett center very

2464
01:39:27,919 --> 01:39:25,289
well in the end all of our partners want

2465
01:39:29,810 --> 01:39:27,929
to fly safe they're not going to take

2466
01:39:31,279 --> 01:39:29,820
any shortcuts on flying safe they are

2467
01:39:33,949 --> 01:39:31,289
going to try to figure out how to go do

2468
01:39:35,989 --> 01:39:33,959
that the best way they can and so all of

2469
01:39:37,790 --> 01:39:35,999
us have the same initiative and it

2470
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,800
doesn't matter who's sitting on top of

2471
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:40,320
the vehicle it's a person and that

2472
01:39:44,270 --> 01:39:42,719
person needs to fly safely and get back

2473
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:44,280
home to their family so that's the

2474
01:39:47,450 --> 01:39:47,010
mission of all our folks on this panel

2475
01:39:49,729 --> 01:39:47,460
and all

2476
01:39:51,170 --> 01:39:49,739
all of our industry partners is to

2477
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:51,180
figure out how to get someone to fly

2478
01:39:54,620 --> 01:39:52,410
doesn't matter if they're wearing a blue

2479
01:39:58,209 --> 01:39:54,630
suit or a company suit how they get back

2480
01:40:00,290 --> 01:39:58,219
to landing and go back to see the family

2481
01:40:02,810 --> 01:40:00,300
okay and I believe we have one more on

2482
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:02,820
the phone bridge from Eric good Eric are

2483
01:40:15,229 --> 01:40:12,480
you there Eric okay well we're back here

2484
01:40:17,300 --> 01:40:15,239
before we pick up any follow-up

2485
01:40:20,780 --> 01:40:17,310
questions we do have one that we

2486
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:20,790
received via Twitter on ask NASA and

2487
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:23,370
it's from Pat host with defense daily

2488
01:40:27,410 --> 01:40:25,290
what are the specific safety

2489
01:40:32,060 --> 01:40:27,420
requirements and standards that have to

2490
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:32,070
be reached for certification I'll see ya

2491
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:34,650
mrs. and mango how an answer that is if

2492
01:40:41,540 --> 01:40:38,370
you look at our web page and we can get

2493
01:40:43,820 --> 01:40:41,550
you that afterwards it has all of our

2494
01:40:46,220 --> 01:40:43,830
requirements listed there's roughly

2495
01:40:49,700 --> 01:40:46,230
about 300 of them they are safety

2496
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:49,710
requirements examples would be we have

2497
01:40:54,740 --> 01:40:52,530
to be able to fly with a fault-tolerant

2498
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:54,750
scenario that says if you were to lose a

2499
01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:56,400
particular system you have a backup

2500
01:41:00,500 --> 01:40:58,290
system in order to get the crew arm

2501
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:00,510
through the rest of the mission safely

2502
01:41:04,490 --> 01:41:02,310
that would be the kind of requirements

2503
01:41:06,830 --> 01:41:04,500
we have another one would be that during

2504
01:41:09,860 --> 01:41:06,840
and abort we have to be able to get the

2505
01:41:11,930 --> 01:41:09,870
crew back to the surface safely I think

2506
01:41:13,490 --> 01:41:11,940
in the video that Sierra Nevada showed

2507
01:41:15,440 --> 01:41:13,500
they said no black zone that's what we

2508
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:15,450
like to call it I guess in vernacular

2509
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:17,130
but in reality it's want to make sure

2510
01:41:20,990 --> 01:41:18,810
that we can get the crew back to the

2511
01:41:23,870 --> 01:41:21,000
surface and survive that all the way

2512
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:23,880
down to the surface on any abort

2513
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:26,130
scenario we also have other performance

2514
01:41:30,380 --> 01:41:28,080
requirements which is we need to get the

2515
01:41:32,930 --> 01:41:30,390
ISS for our mission we need to provide

2516
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:32,940
for crew to International Space Station

2517
01:41:36,290 --> 01:41:34,560
the vehicle needs to be docked to the

2518
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:36,300
International Space Station for up to

2519
01:41:39,770 --> 01:41:38,130
two inch in 10 days and be able to leave

2520
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:39,780
at any time in order to get back home

2521
01:41:43,490 --> 01:41:42,090
either for an emergency to get back home

2522
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:43,500
or at the end of that particular mission

2523
01:41:47,150 --> 01:41:45,570
so those are the kind of requirements

2524
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:47,160
now again there's a couple hundred of

2525
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:49,050
them and you can go online and get all

2526
01:41:53,890 --> 01:41:51,840
those that are at our website and all

2527
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:53,900
those have been defined noggin baselined

2528
01:41:58,720 --> 01:41:56,250
all the companies have them they've had

2529
01:42:00,610 --> 01:41:58,730
them since August and so

2530
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,620
everyone is working towards the same set

2531
01:42:04,510 --> 01:42:02,480
of requirements and we don't expect to

2532
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:04,520
change them we went through a great

2533
01:42:08,770 --> 01:42:05,930
extent of trying to make sure we

2534
01:42:09,850 --> 01:42:08,780
understood them and and we gave them out

2535
01:42:12,820 --> 01:42:09,860
the industry and now we're moving

2536
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:12,830
forward and so that's what we expect the

2537
01:42:16,060 --> 01:42:14,480
company is to try to meet and when when

2538
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:16,070
they have a better way of doing it then

2539
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:17,570
they'll bring forward their variances

2540
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:20,570
and we'll talk about those okay and we

2541
01:42:24,580 --> 01:42:22,489
also just received a Twitter question

2542
01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:24,590
from alan Boyle from NBC who was with us

2543
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:25,910
on the phone bridge he wants to know

2544
01:42:31,030 --> 01:42:28,970
does sierra nevada have a crude flight

2545
01:42:35,979 --> 01:42:31,040
plan they're planning suborbital flights

2546
01:42:37,450 --> 01:42:35,989
first ? yes we do we we are vehicle is

2547
01:42:39,460 --> 01:42:37,460
what we like to call optionally piloted

2548
01:42:42,430 --> 01:42:39,470
which means it's fully autonomous and

2549
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:42,440
fully piloted from its design and so too

2550
01:42:47,110 --> 01:42:45,440
does the flight test program alternate

2551
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:47,120
between autonomous flights and crude

2552
01:42:50,770 --> 01:42:49,010
flights and we will be going through the

2553
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:50,780
suborbital regime to get to orbital

2554
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:52,730
flight and we will be doing that in both

2555
01:42:58,210 --> 01:42:56,210
autonomous as well as crude versions ok

2556
01:42:59,470 --> 01:42:58,220
thank you alright we're back here at

2557
01:43:05,140 --> 01:42:59,480
Kennedy do we have any follow-up

2558
01:43:07,450 --> 01:43:05,150
questions seeing none I want to thank

2559
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:07,460
you all very much and turn it over to

2560
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:10,010
mr. mango force closing remarks ok

2561
01:43:14,890 --> 01:43:12,770
thanks and I definitely I think everyone

2562
01:43:16,780 --> 01:43:14,900
for coming out to Florida it's probably

2563
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:16,790
warmest day I've ever seen in January so

2564
01:43:22,030 --> 01:43:18,770
thanks for coming to Chamber of Commerce

2565
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:22,040
floor today I would say that you know

2566
01:43:25,900 --> 01:43:24,080
the couple questions about cruise and

2567
01:43:28,750 --> 01:43:25,910
who they are and I think I tried to

2568
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:28,760
answer earlier about you know to to us

2569
01:43:33,340 --> 01:43:31,489
it doesn't it does matter who's on top

2570
01:43:35,380 --> 01:43:33,350
of the vehicle for a particular mission

2571
01:43:37,300 --> 01:43:35,390
when we're in our test flight phase

2572
01:43:40,750 --> 01:43:37,310
whether it's under icap there will be

2573
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:40,760
crews from the companies under Phase two

2574
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:43,010
it will be probably a combined cruise

2575
01:43:47,050 --> 01:43:45,530
between what NASA needs as well as what

2576
01:43:48,370 --> 01:43:47,060
the company might want to do and we'll

2577
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:48,380
have to go talk about all those details

2578
01:43:53,229 --> 01:43:50,690
but in the end this is a joint effort

2579
01:43:55,740 --> 01:43:53,239
between our astronaut corps and the

2580
01:43:58,300 --> 01:43:55,750
astronauts or the crew members at the

2581
01:44:01,570 --> 01:43:58,310
individual companies might be hiring and

2582
01:44:03,670 --> 01:44:01,580
it's that joint test plan that would get

2583
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:03,680
us to an end state it isn't just one or

2584
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:07,010
the other if anyone has developed

2585
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:08,960
aircraft in the past you know that it's

2586
01:44:13,810 --> 01:44:11,570
it's military pilots as well as pilots

2587
01:44:16,180 --> 01:44:13,820
from from the companies that do the

2588
01:44:17,770 --> 01:44:16,190
flight testing and so we expect that

2589
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:17,780
same kind of approach as we move through

2590
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:19,760
this overall process of trying to get

2591
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:22,730
developed I'd also say it is important

2592
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:25,370
to talk about the those blue suiters or

2593
01:44:30,250 --> 01:44:27,530
company pilots are flying the vehicles

2594
01:44:32,620 --> 01:44:30,260
but I would also say just like in sts-1

2595
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:32,630
in 1981 there were two pilots flying a

2596
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:34,610
vehicle to test pilots they took an

2597
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:36,050
awful lot of risk on that particular

2598
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:38,330
mission but there were thousands if not

2599
01:44:41,709 --> 01:44:40,400
tens of thousands of people behind their

2600
01:44:43,690 --> 01:44:41,719
to make sure the vehicle is going to fly

2601
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:43,700
safe and the first test flight was going

2602
01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:45,770
to be successful it's no different than

2603
01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:47,840
in this generation of human space flight

2604
01:44:51,130 --> 01:44:49,460
endeavour that we're proceeding with

2605
01:44:53,020 --> 01:44:51,140
there'll be a couple people that are

2606
01:44:54,670 --> 01:44:53,030
sitting on top of the vehicle ready to

2607
01:44:57,010 --> 01:44:54,680
fly the vehicle but there'll be hundreds

2608
01:44:59,860 --> 01:44:57,020
if not thousands of people that are

2609
01:45:01,660 --> 01:44:59,870
engineers technicians mechanics quality

2610
01:45:03,550 --> 01:45:01,670
folks that are behind the two people are

2611
01:45:05,140 --> 01:45:03,560
for people that are sitting on top of

2612
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:05,150
the vehicle to go fly that are going to

2613
01:45:09,700 --> 01:45:06,800
make sure that the vehicle is as safe as

2614
01:45:11,860 --> 01:45:09,710
possible to go fly that is an American

2615
01:45:13,900 --> 01:45:11,870
endeavor that is a national interest

2616
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:13,910
that is a national involvement to go

2617
01:45:17,530 --> 01:45:15,650
make this happen it's not just about the

2618
01:45:19,420 --> 01:45:17,540
two it's about the hundreds of people

2619
01:45:20,950 --> 01:45:19,430
that want to see America get back into

2620
01:45:23,229 --> 01:45:20,960
space and have a transportation system

2621
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:23,239
to do so to low Earth orbit thanks for

2622
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:24,770
coming today and thanks for listening

2623
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:27,770
and you all have a good day all right

2624
01:45:32,050 --> 01:45:30,290
thank you and a reminder you can stay up

2625
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:32,060
to date on the exciting progress of the

2626
01:45:39,330 --> 01:45:33,890
Commercial Crew program in several ways

2627
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:39,340
on the web at WWDC gov / Commercial Crew

2628
01:45:46,450 --> 01:45:43,370
on twitter at Commercial Crew and on